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“And that stuff about protesters and so on is also totally misguided. In democratic countries, you will have protesters against military action.”

If we operated with the modus operandi of your nation, Berlin would have fallen, and so would have W. Germany. And that’s no over exaggeration.

You might want to learn a bit more about the domino theory and what happened in Vietnam and its aftermath before you make half baked connections. Your “Der Spiegel” world isn’t the way it worked. Actually China helped Vietnam during the war as did the Soviets and hardware found in Vietnam came from places as far away as the DDR (parts for missiles) and Romania (RPGs). You might want to read up a bit on Pol Pot and who backed him, and why, and why his rampage was made possible and why he was stopped on the boarders of Thailand and who helped back Thailand so that they would stand (Another place you weren’t but where you today see fat Germans vacationing). You’re a typical German, and you’re just smart enough to scream things like “Irak wird wie Vietnam,” while smirking and hoping this becomes the case to justify your inaction.

But when the dust settles, your type will have no problem taking credit for Afghanistan, the Balkans, etc etc etc. With your big German foreheads and “dialog,” you solved the real world’s problems, I know.

***The Soviets were brought to their knees with dollars and bullets,*** not the sweet words of Brandt. It was in places like Grenada (Operation Urgent Furry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada ) where the Cold War was really fought and where another 19 stupid Ami’s fighting for the wrong cause according to you Germans died. An Island with no industry, little tourism, where armed Cuban construction workers, engineers from the DDR (Whom we sent back home after the invasion), and Russian financing piped through Nicaragua was paying for a runway long enough to land strategic bombers, and of course all this was possible after a tin pot dictatorship (Maurice Austin and his Peoples Revolutionary Government) assumed power after a little coupe sponsored by you take a guess who? Who was on the other side of the iron curtain and threatening you?

You have a lot to be proud of, but not for what you have contributed over the last 60 years in terms of our collective security and interests. In security matters, Germany has done little and often nothing, even when she could have done something, even when she was asked to contribute, even when the legitimacy is beyond reproach as in Afghanistan.

I have a theory. The German only has courage with those whom he knows won’t bomb him. After Pan Am 103 and La Belle, your politicians were silent and no action was taken. Even today with Iran, you’re not going to do anything, and the Iranians know it. They know that your negotiations are demonstrations of appeasement intended for the masses back home but they have not and will not give you anything other than lip service. You’ll have courage to protest the Ami, you’ll sit in front of our bases and light things on fire, throw rocks and even make claims that your paying for our bases and installations there (The self victimization you love to do) while it costs the American tax payer roughly 10B a year to operate in Germany years past. But when faced with a Kadaffi you crawl into a corner and piss all over yourself, knowing that guy might light a bomb somewhere in your country if you were to do something about his line of death drawn through the Mediterranean ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1981) ). Germany has been trying to “figure out it role” for a long time, and in reality it has nothing to do with what you claim, and everything to do with sucking on the teat of a global free world where others pay the price for our security and collective interests.