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To: David
In preparing a response to your post, I researched your other recent posts and see you do have many posts in a thread about the question of whether Obama was born in US or Kenya. So I am pulling from all to highlight the places where you need to provide sources.

Its just a plain weakness of FR that it doesn't have a topical memory so that items of interest can be more easily accessed. We end up needing to repeat over and over in threads links to make these connections.

You said:

Initially, I attempted to follow the practice of citing references on the collateral issues however the volume of legal issues began to build up so I attempted to focus on them and stopped looking for references on the collateral questions

Well.. you have made quite a few statements that need backtracks to substantiate that have nothing to do with questions of law per se...

I am going to for the moment step away from the whole McCain isn't a natural citizen and such and the McCaskill bill that you haven't cited a source that actually contains language that helps Obama. Frankly, even without links you have provided enough substantial citations for your opinion for one to consider it regardless of what one takes away.

Lets work our way through these others one at a time..

The only thing that admits of a response is the Vital Statistics point. The newspapers in Hawaii of the day published each day, births and deaths and marriages of the preceding 24 hours. Someone has gone through and looked at library editions of those newspapers for August 3, 1961 to learn that nowhere in the first week of August is there publication of the birth of this guy under any of the available names. His mother doesn't appear anywhere as a mother either.

This is interesting.. but without who the "someone" is or where this "fact" is published (Link).. its pretty empty.. I am sure you can understand.. anyone can write anything..

I assume there is some factual background behind the Israel news reports regarding the investigation and product thereof, Kenya birth records demonstrating that Obama was born there. I assume further that he will never be able to produce a provable Certificate of his birth in Hawaii although it should be recognized that the Hawaii birth records employees are probably Liberals who support Obama and who will participate in any reasonable effort to support his position.

This needs a link to the article(s) mentioned. The next may just be a restatement of the former.. but it reflects more "facts" of interest without the grounding of the sources.

there is a reported interview of the "grandmother" and two of his half-siblings that purports to claim they were present at his birth in Kenya; and there is the Wayne Madsen update reporting that three investigators hired to investigate Obama's background in Kenya have located official records of his birth in Kenya confirming that his birth occurred in that country.

Link(s) please!

I think thats about all. When you cite these facts and in some place you do them all at once.. just drop in the links and that will handle the back chatter.

809 posted on 07/04/2008 9:40:43 AM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight; David
"....there is a reported interview of the "grandmother" and two of his half-siblings that purports to claim they were present at his birth in Kenya; and there is the Wayne Madsen update reporting that three investigators hired to investigate Obama's background in Kenya have located official records of his birth in Kenya confirming that his birth occurred in that country."

You need to do what I do when I read statements like these. I go searching. I posted the below link before if I recall on this thread..

Here is the Wayne Madsen report. Doesn't exactly confirm his birth took place in Kenya. But there is still the question as to weather this was JUST a registration (like emplied), or an official Birth Certificate from Kenya.
Wayne Madsen report

861 posted on 07/04/2008 11:30:33 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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