[socialismisinsidious]

It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is. Even if he was born in Cuba or North Korea.

To be President one has to be a "native-born citizen" If Obama's Mama gave birth to him in another country then that would make him a "citizen at birth" but not a "native-born citizen" It's worth knowing since its Constitutional and would set precedent that the Libs would love.

I wonder if there were posts like yours over the Bush documents. These people are not above forgery.

[Dog Gone]

To be President one has to be a "native-born citizen" If Obama's Mama gave birth to him in another country then that would make him a "citizen at birth" but not a "native-born citizen" It's worth knowing since its Constitutional and would set precedent that the Libs would love.

You're factually and legally incorrect.

[AuH2ORepublican]

“It doesn’t matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is. Even if he was born in Cuba or North Korea.”

“To be President one has to be a “native-born citizen” If Obama’s Mama gave birth to him in another country then that would make him a “citizen at birth” but not a “native-born citizen” It’s worth knowing since its Constitutional and would set precedent that the Libs would love.”

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Actually, you’re both wrong. Under federal law at the time of Obama’s birth (and not amended until 1986), a person born outside of the U.S. or territories that had one U.S. citizen parent and one non-citizen parent was a U.S. citizen at birth only if said U.S. citizen parent had resided in the U.S. (including its territories) for 10 years, with at least 5 years coming after the age of 14. Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen, and his mother was only 18 at the time (so at the time of Obama’s birth she couldn’t have lived in the U.S. for 5 years after the age of 14), so Obama would not be a U.S. citizen at birth had he been born in a foreign country (be it Kenya, the Philippines or what have you). However, if a person born outside the U.S. qualified for U.S. citizenship at birth (there are different rules for cases in which both parents are citizens, one is a citizen and the other is a U.S. “national” (like American Samoans), and one is a citizen and the other an alien), then he or she would be a “natural-born citizen” for purposes of Article II, sec. 1, cl. 5 of the Constitution and thus qualify for the office of the president (assuming, of course, that at the time such person is sworn in as president he or she is at least 35 years old and had resided within the U.S. for at least 14 years).

[SendShaqtoIraq]

Not true. Native born means you are BORN a citizen, not someone who comes here and BECOMES a citizen. If his mother is a citizen and lived here at least five years, HE IS A NATIVE BORN CITIZEN no matter what country he was born in.

[Gondring]

To be President one has to be a "native-born citizen"

"natural born," not "native-born"

[FreeperinRATcage]

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

* Anyone born inside the United States
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

[billmor]

Remember too, it isn’t the citizenship of the mother that determines the baby’s status as native born, it is tha actual place of birth that determines whether one is native born or is just a citizen at birth..The Constitution requires a candidate for President to be a natural born citizen and this question has never been resolved by the Supreme Court..So yes, The Clintons should be ‘supremely’ interested in this case of Obama’s forgery...and the DNC should start sweating it—now