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To: usmcobra
The nation we entered into the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with no longer exists, so why would we keep a treaty with a country or a government that doesn’t exist.
The ABM treaty is just one example. A more recent example is the execution Texas carried out the other day. The US has signed a treaty but the Supreme Court found that the provisions of it couldn't be carried out constitutionally. The Constitution trumped the treaty.
The only rights we have outside of our borders are guaranteed by those treaties you would ignore for the sake of Obama’s candidacy.
It's not that I would ignore them, certainly not to support Obama's candidacy. It's just that the Constitution is important. The idea of giving the rights conferred by it away via treaty is unacceptable.

If Obama's not eligible because he is not a natural born citizen that's fine. If he was born on foreign soil he likely isn't. But if he was born on US soil you would have to strike at the heart of the Constitution to take his eligibility away. This election isn't so important that the Constitution should be suspended.

4,659 posted on 08/09/2008 10:01:32 PM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

Then let’s have this issue settled by the Supreme Court the first step is to challenge his candidacy on the grounds that he has multiple citizenship and should not even be eligible.

If you truly want to see the Constitution prevail then you should support any effort that attempts to define who has citizenship and why?

You say that treaties don’t stop US law and that we must have our laws over ride any treaty gere is a prefect example of a case or several where dual citizenship would have a pronounced effect on our government if it is allowed to enter into the election process.

Let the court decide what is right and what is wrong.


4,662 posted on 08/09/2008 10:14:28 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

Just so I can refresh your memory, The Congress of the United States never ratified the treaty Mexico is claiming we should have followed.

According to their claim that because he wasn’t allowed to contact his consulate, he should have been released and his execution was in violation of that treaty.

The Mexican government is calling for an additional Miranda warning specifically for Mexican citizens in the United States illegally based upon a treaty we never ratified.


4,710 posted on 08/10/2008 10:52:24 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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