[bvw]

Yes, and so what? That date was not unknown it crossed your own keypad to type -- I was talking about the long fawning article about Obama's parents and grandparents that did NOT give a wedding date, but went out of it's way to be clear about his birth date.

Both dates are suspect, and we only are sure Barrack was born because we know of no other way people get here. Moreover we don't know if there really was a marriage nor where it took place. We have some sayso, some hearsay, about this date and that place, but there is no documentary support! Not for where and when he was born, not for the marriage.

[Calpernia]

>>>...we only are sure Barrack was born because we know of no other way people get here.

Maybe....

Just a thought!

[WOSG]

“Moreover we don’t know if there really was a marriage nor where it took place. “

The fact that one article chose not to give the marriage date is uninteresting. Perhaps they didnt want to make it explicit that his Mom married when pregnant with Barack.

The marriage date (Feb 2 1961), location (Maui) and its existence were recorded in her divorce filing, which (reportedly) was filed in 1964 in Honolulu. Obviously, there was a marriage, or there would be no reason for a divorce.

[null and void]

Moreover we don't know if there really was a marriage nor where it took place. We have some sayso, some hearsay, about this date and that place, but there is no documentary support! Not for where and when he was born, not for the marriage.

Minor point. We know they were married, because we have documentation of a divorce.

We don't know if they ever had a wedding, jumped over a broom, or shacked up and told everyone they were married (also known as a "common law" marriage).

Besides, nobody cares if he was a bastard, as long as he's demonstrably a (natural-born) American bastard...