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To: chaosagent

It has nothing to do with her 16th birthday.

You guys just make up crap.


141 posted on 07/03/2008 5:46:09 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Back in 1974 I was legaly married to a S. Korean citizen that gave birth to a son that bore my name, he was born in an army hospital and had an American birth certificate, however, that did not automaticly make him a US Citizen, that was the law in 1974.


152 posted on 07/03/2008 5:54:26 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: Dog Gone

Hey man, I lost both a child AND a doberman to the cracks in my yard!


155 posted on 07/03/2008 5:55:23 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Dog Gone

I’m still waiting and wondering when the candidates and the media will start talking about the issues.

Oh, well. Happy Independence Day!


156 posted on 07/03/2008 5:55:41 PM PDT by airborne (End the "open primary" system now!!! Only Republicans should vote in Republican primaries!)
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To: Dog Gone

From Freeper Spunky

“There’s no doubt his mother was a citizen, so does it even matter where he was born?”
Yes it does matter. There were/are laws governing this. It depends on which year you were born.

Obama was born in 1961 and the below was the law covering that year.

4. December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986
If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.

If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. There are no conditions placed on retaining this type of citizenship. If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and you were born outside of marriage, the same rules apply if your father legally legitimated you before your 21st birthday and you were unmarried at the time. If legitimation occurred after November 14, 1986, your father must have established paternity prior to your 18th birthday, either by acknowledgment or by court order, and must have stated in writing that he would support you financially until your 18th birthday.

If by chance Barack Obama’s mother gave birth to him in Kenya she did not meet the 5 year residency in the U.S. after the age of 16 because she was 18 when she gave birth.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2039352/posts
post 124 has a link to the citizenship laws


161 posted on 07/03/2008 5:57:49 PM PDT by Aria (Obama: Potluck for President! "I serve as a blank screen on which people..project their own views")
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To: Dog Gone
It has nothing to do with her 16th birthday. You guys just make up crap.

Nonsense. When Obama was born, 8 USCA Sec. 1401(g) (then Sec. 1401(7)) said that a child born outside the United States where only one of two parents was a US Citizen (the other being an alien) was a citizen but only if the U S Citizen parent had lived in the US for least ten years prior to the birth of which ten years, at least five years were after the age of 16. The statue was amended in November of 1986 but only with respect to children born after that date.

295 posted on 07/03/2008 7:30:35 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: Dog Gone

“4. December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986
If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.

If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. There are no conditions placed on retaining this type of citizenship. If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and you were born outside of marriage, the same rules apply if your father legally legitimated you before your 21st birthday and you were unmarried at the time. If legitimation occurred after November 14, 1986, your father must have established paternity prior to your 18th birthday, either by acknowledgment or by court order, and must have stated in writing that he would support you financially until your 18th birthday.”

http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html


339 posted on 07/03/2008 7:59:30 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is hiding something about his birth, parents or name- but what?)
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To: Dog Gone

It has nothing to do with her 16th birthday.

You guys just make up crap.


So if you don’t believe me, just do a little research yourself.

“According to FindLaw.com, cited by Geraghty, the requirements that were in force from Dec. 24, 1952 to Nov. 13, 1986, encompassing the time of Obama’s birth, state, “If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”

Now tell me again it doesn’t have anything to do with his mother’s 16th birthday.


594 posted on 07/04/2008 12:58:01 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Dog Gone
Correct, it has to do with her 14th birthday:

From the US State Department website:

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

But of course that's for children born in Wedlock. If he was born outside the US and out of wedlock then the following applies

Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother: A child born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 301(g) INA, as made applicable by Section 309(c) INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child's birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.

But notice "may acquire", meaning not a citizen by birth or a natural born citizen?

1,374 posted on 07/05/2008 1:39:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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