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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

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To: OldEagle

Makes sense to me too.


4,021 posted on 07/30/2008 6:37:43 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Miss Didi; Amityschild; Always Right; Calpernia; null and void; SE Mom; Fred Nerks; bvw; WOSG; ...
I want to respectfully dissent from Texas D's and Mr. Benjamin's speculation about the current birth certificate on the campaign site and the birthplace issue. Both could turn out to be correct but I doubt it.

The birth certificate on the campaign site is demonstratively fake on its face. If for no other reason because the blackout of the number is digital, not a paste over. Thus we know that the depiction is a digitally modified document.

It appears to me also pretty clear that the white spaces around the letters on the crucial blanks (name, race, etc.) demonstrate that those letters were inserted by a digital process.

For those reasons, I don't have much trouble saying that the only birth certificate furnished for general circulation by Obama and his campaign is fraudulent and fake.

As to the speculation about Indonesian citizenship and other issues, I look at that from the lawyer's perspective. If Obama was really born in Hawaii, I would be very comfortable rolling the dice with the Supreme Court or anyone else on the "natural born" issue--Mr. Benjamin's articles are very nice theoretical analysis; but all they really do is demonstrate the foundation of the "natural born" clause in the first place. That isn't how the Court would decide the case.

And as little respect as I have for Obama's sophistication and experience as a lawyer, and he also has access to some very capable help who are sophisticated and experienced, I believe that is how they would resolve that kind of issue. So I remain on the proposition that the only substantive issue that merits concealing with the birth certificate is his place of birth.

And I further expect to find when the Hawaii records ultimately appear that there is some kind of paper record filed by the mother or one of the grandparents evincing birth in Honolulu--and further to find that record is defective is some respect that casts doubt on the crucial fact. Wrong hospital or place of birth; or time of birth; or whatever.

There is simply too much ancillary evidence out there that implies a birth outside the US--probably in Kenya.

The story about the missionaries who got on the airplane when Stanley Ann could not because she was too pregnant; the newspaper interviews with Sarah and the two half-siblings to the effect that they were present when he was born in Kenya; the Wayne Madsen report that birth records had been located in Kenya.

And the phony explanation about why she was on Mercer Island so soon after the birth she hadn't figured out how to change diapers in August of 1961--Susan Blake's testimony that she was on her way to Boston to see Obama Sr. who was at Harvard when the record is clear that he wasn't at Harvard in Boston until a year later.

The story that really fits is the connections in the published BOA (British Overseas Airlines) connection schedules--she flew out of Nairobi through Glaskow to Vancouver BC; then took ground transportation to Mercer Island in Seattle; there is live testimony somewhere that she was coming from Vancouver when she came to Mercer Island.

4,022 posted on 07/31/2008 7:35:01 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: SE Mom
Obama, citizen of?
4,023 posted on 07/31/2008 7:36:18 AM PDT by bvw
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To: David
Plausible theory, David. The only thing I'm 99% certain of is that he is trying mightily to conceal something. We will get to the bottom of it.
4,024 posted on 07/31/2008 7:43:36 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: bvw

Citizen of:

His own state of mind.

:P


4,025 posted on 07/31/2008 7:44:25 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: pissant; David

bump


4,026 posted on 07/31/2008 7:45:02 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: David

Great post as usual, sir!


4,027 posted on 07/31/2008 7:49:30 AM PDT by bvw
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To: David

Excellent post. I really admire your thought process.


4,028 posted on 07/31/2008 8:11:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: David; SE Mom; pissant; PhilDragoo; potlatch; devolve; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Shermy

David, thanks for your level headed and excellent legal discussions re the fake COLB the past weeks.


4,029 posted on 07/31/2008 8:42:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama gets the special-ed treatment as our untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Spunky
Otherwise Barack Sr. would have had to give up all rights to Barack Jr. and I doubt that he would have done that.

Yes, assuming that Barak Sr.'s name was on the original CoLB.

My daughter's male genetic source was never on her BC as he and the eeeeeeeeeeeeevil slime mom split the blanket before she was born.

I show up as the father of record on her CoLB, even though I didn't met her mom until Darling Daughter was three years old.

Eh? What's that you say? Barack Sr. abandoned Stanley Ann before 'baby maybe' was born?

Hmmmmmm.

4,030 posted on 07/31/2008 8:42:41 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: STARWISE
My question is still: how and what did the State Dept. have to do to issue him a legal US passport?

Per the State Department's own web site, they do not need a birth certificate to issue a Passport.

The minimum requirements are:

1. "Certificate of No Record" from the state that says the state was unable to find a CoLB.
2. A DS-10A filed by an older blood relative that asserts he was born here.

That's it.

I've had to dig this out a dozen times to show people, either trust me on this one, or go to the State department's web site and see for your self: www.state.gov

Please don't piss me off by asking for me to dig it up again.

4,031 posted on 07/31/2008 8:49:22 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: null and void

Toot Toot!


4,032 posted on 07/31/2008 8:51:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: David

THANKS

putting in my Word OBUMMA file for distribution to my email list.


4,033 posted on 07/31/2008 9:02:47 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: null and void
"My daughter's male genetic source was never on her BC as he and the eeeeeeeeeeeeevil slime mom split the blanket before she was born."

Were they married before they split? Remember I said that scenerio of Soetero adopting Obama if true, led me to believe they were never married, therefore Obama Sr. name would not be on the birth certificate.

Are you calling the woman you married the mother of your adopted daughter "the eeeeeeeeeeeeevil slime mom"?

4,034 posted on 07/31/2008 9:19:53 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Spunky
Were they married before they split?

Well, yes and no. They were married when Darling Daughter was conceived.

BUT

The marriage was annulled. Legally that means it never happened.

So retroactively my Daughter became a bastard, even though her parents were married when she was conceived, because they retroactively became never married.

Remember I said that scenerio of Soetero adopting Obama if true, led me to believe they were never married, therefore Obama Sr. name would not be on the birth certificate.

Yeah. But even if they were married, nothing saying an abandoned Stanley Ann wasn't so pissed at Barack Sr. that she admitted to the hospital that she was ever married. It's not like they check.

I have difficulty imagining a scorned woman naming her kid after the man who scorned her. (Unless she thought it would cause him endless troubles!)

Maybe she named him Stanley Ann Dunham, Jr.

Are you calling the woman you married the mother of your adopted daughter "the eeeeeeeeeeeeevil slime mom"?

Yes. We're divorced.

In conversation we've been known to refer to each other in the 3rd person as the eeeeeeeeeevil slime mom and the eeeeeeeeevil slime dad.

Oh, and Darling Daughter? Not only is she retro-retroactively no longer a bastard, she is a legitimate child, conceived by immaculate conception years before her parents ever met.

At least on paper.

4,035 posted on 07/31/2008 10:04:04 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: David

Gold star post, David! Thanks for the ping.


4,036 posted on 07/31/2008 10:06:09 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Spunky
Oh, one more thing. She's my Darling Daughter. NO ONE thinks of her as an adopted daughter.

Besides that would make her Darling Adopted Daughter, or DAD for short.

Then not only would she be the product of immaculate conception, she'd be her own DAD...

4,037 posted on 07/31/2008 10:13:02 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: David

There is another thing that has been bothering me from the beginning when comparing McCain’s Certification of Live Birth (CoLF) to that of Obama’s phony certificate of whatever. (Sorry to bring McCain’s problems into this thread, but I am doing it as a comparison.) McCain’s CoLB was registered in the Canal Zone about two weeks plus after he was born across the boarder in the Rep of Panama. Obama’s phony certificate of whatever was registered in just a few days…in many days less time then that of McCain’s. It must have been falsely registered (in time) at some point. (There was no DHL, etc., then.)

There is something funny here on Obama’s part.

Respectfully,


4,038 posted on 07/31/2008 10:42:08 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: LucyT; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ..

rejoinder:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/posts?page=4022#4022


4,039 posted on 07/31/2008 11:21:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); David
...McCain’s CoLB was registered in the Canal Zone about two weeks plus after he was born across the boarder in the Rep of Panama. Obama’s phony certificate of whatever was registered in just a few days…in many days less time then that of McCain’s...

Just did some checking on my own BC. Mine was registered with the county 4 days after birth. This was during an era when mom and baby (babies in my case) remained in the hospital for several days. Also, the BC or COLB states that the biographical info was supplied by Mom.

I'm guessing the info was supplied to a deputy registrar (named in the document) who likely made the rounds to local hospitals during that era. The attending physician's signature is also on the doc with a date 2 days after births.

Nowhere on the doc, front or back, does the name Toot appear. :) Toot! Toot!

4,040 posted on 07/31/2008 11:59:09 AM PDT by Diver Dave
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