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Is Offshore Drilling the Next Gun Control?
thenextright.com ^ | June 20, 2008 | William Beutler

Posted on 06/20/2008 12:30:51 PM PDT by neverdem

The conventional punditry on McCain's call to end the ban on offshore oil exploration has focused on whether President Bush's suppport for the idea will hurt McCain in the fall. But that could change, and soon, if what's happened in just the past few days develops into a real trend:

Sen. Jim Webb announced he now supports exploration off the coast of Virginia.

Ex-Gov. Mark Warner also supports opening up the Virginia coastline to possible drilling.

Meanwhile, the latest Gallup survey shows Democrats are split on offshore drilling, with 39% in support while 59% still oppose.

Better yet, it's an issue where independents side with the GOP, although the margins are not so wide (80% in favor vs. 56%). Overall, Americans favor opening up U.S. coastal waters by a 57% to 41%.

Now, what does this issue remind you of? How about gun control in the late 1990s?

Arguably the anti-gun movement's greatest victory was the 1994 Scary-Looking Gun Act... er, Assault Weapons Ban. Through the 1990s, crime declined steadily, and it had nothing to do with assault weapons or the ban. State gun laws stayed the same or got better. Americans' support for gun freedom started to tick upward. The 2007 Virginia Tech massacre generated more questions from the left about their own priorities than any actual calls for greater restrictions.

Meanwhile Democrats, who had traditionally taken a dim view of the Second Amendment, started to change their minds. By 2000, many Democrats believed that Gore's opposition to guns cost him in rural areas. When Mark Warner ran for governor in 2002, he gladly counted "Sportsmen for Warner" among his supporters. And after John Kerry lost in 2004, Chris Bowers actually wrote this at MyDD:

There are two liberal issues that I think we should drop ... The first is gun control. Even though I have never owned a gun, and never intend to own a gun, this is an issue that has never resonated with me. Have any of our gun control laws reduced gun-related violence? Are there any further laws we could pass that would be more effective than just enforcing the laws we have? Forgive me if I sound a little NRA, but are guns really a major part of the problem with our violent society?

Small coincidence then that MyDD site founder (and Warner consultant) Jerome Armstrong wrote this yesterday:

The politics have changed, and I don't see the principle that guides Democrats to be unequivocally against offshore drilling for oil at this point. We are stuck on oil for a long time. Congressional Dems should adopt the position, include some safeguards, and alongside billions in funding for finding alternative fuel solutions, make it part of a long-term solution.

And so far, support for offshore exploration from Democrats is limited. Will Democrats continue to ignore a significant minority of their party who support it? If they don't, that's good news for John McCain. If they do, it might just be the next gun control.

P.S. To be sure, not all Republicans have joined McCain. Take for instance Gov. Schwarzenegger, who styles himself an environmentalist and, perhaps coincidentally, is also a supporter of gun cuntrol.

Note: Yesterday I covered the poor reception of Daily Kos' offshore drilling conspiracy theories on the social news site Digg, at Blog P.I.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008; banglist; democrats; drilling; drillnow; electionpresident; elections; energy; energyprices; gasprices; greens; guncontrol; nobama08; obama; offshoredrilling; oil; oildrilling
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1 posted on 06/20/2008 12:31:02 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
As the price of gas rises.. Democrats are getting more antsy.. Because they are getting EXPOSED... This issue should be tied to the democrats like a millstone.. Every single republican running for anything or presently elected to anything should change the subject IN EVERY VENUE... harping on this subject like automatons.. or robots..

IF they did that so that ALL USERS of gas or diesel would eventual have to confornt thios issue.. The democrats everywhere would be TOAST..

I'm talking when doing ANYTHING they change the subject to this issue.. CHANGE.. Change the subject.. Change the energy policy... CHANGE the price of fuel.. CHANGE the taxes on fuel of all kinds.. CHANGE CHANGE thats what I'm talking about CHANGE... CHANGE the party officials that created this problem.. republican OR democrat.. or even independant..

2 posted on 06/20/2008 12:48:59 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: neverdem
I am glad to hear that some folks may be changing their minds on drilling. That is badly needed.

But Obama must be pressured heavily to oppose drilling anywhere, anytime, and for any reason. He must be pressured to oppose all steps for energy independence and anything that can be considered a step towards solving our problem. And he must be pressured to say this stuff in his campaign speeches repeatedly. The greens will be in ecstasy and there will be plenty of ammunition to use against him in his own speeches.

Now comes the hard part. McCain must pick up the ammunition and use it in large amounts, to beat Obama over the head on this as a campaign issue.

3 posted on 06/20/2008 12:53:33 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“Now comes the hard part. McCain must pick up the ammunition and use it in large amounts, to beat Obama over the head on this as a campaign issue.”

Okay, it’s Friday...uh, Sarge, I thought we were supposed to SHOOT ‘em with it, not BEAT ‘em with it...??


4 posted on 06/20/2008 1:11:36 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: neverdem
I support offshore drilling, but I'm afraid too much focus on it distracts from what is, IMHO, a source of oil that is likely much more significant: Rocky Mountain Shale.

I'd like to see the pubbies talk about that more.

5 posted on 06/20/2008 2:17:22 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Offshore drilling and oil shale are both parts of an energy policy.
Manufactured oil is another part (thermal de-polymerization). With estimates of possible production in the 1-4 million barrel a day range, this process can produce as much oil as ANWR, without the issues of depletion.
Bio-fuels have their part to play (mostly as niche fuels). What wrecks the positive energy balance of most bio-fuels is the transport of raw materials to the conversion facility, and the transport of the liquid fuel to the end user.
Nuclear, solar, and wind have a solid role along with changing how transportation is powered. Build Nuclear plants, run the power lines down the rail rights of way, while also using electricity to move freight.
6 posted on 06/20/2008 2:56:51 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: curiosity

I read a story not long ago that we at one point started to develop shale oil, and as soon as they heard about it, Saudi Arabia cut the per barrel price of oil which encouraged us to pull the plug on that project. I wish I had the link, but that told me how “drill here, drill now” can and will have a fairly fast impact on the price of oil.


7 posted on 06/20/2008 2:58:11 PM PDT by Marauder (Damn the Bolsheviks to hell.)
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To: jagusafr
uh, Sarge, I thought we were supposed to SHOOT ‘em with it, not BEAT ‘em with it...??

We are, but this is John McCain. If I can get him to beat his opponent with it instead of just sitting there staring at the ammunition, that is a MAJOR step in the right direction. Training him to SHOOT the stuff comes after we teach him to pick it up.

Yeah, yeah. He was a naval officer, but he was a pilot. He still needs to learn to use a rifle and ammo and that happens in steps. This is just one of those steps.

"Johnny, see all that stuff lying around your opponent? That is called ammo. Pick some of it up."

8 posted on 06/20/2008 3:08:01 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Marauder

Last week, there was a caller to Rush that used to be some type of financial trader, and her view was that if we did lift the moratorium on offshore drilling, then the commodities traders/speculators would not be as gung ho about buying oil futures, and the price would go down. She thought it would go down significantly, IIRC. The point is that even SAYING we would begin drilling more domestically will have a psychological impact on the market, and would end a lot of this speculation that is running up prices.


9 posted on 06/20/2008 6:48:31 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Visit my blog: Chronic Positivity - http://chronicpositivity.com)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Thanks neverdem.
Sen. Jim Webb announced he now supports exploration off the coast of Virginia.

Ex-Gov. Mark Warner also supports opening up the Virginia coastline to possible drilling.

Meanwhile, the latest Gallup survey shows Democrats are split on offshore drilling, with 39% in support while 59% still oppose.

Better yet, it's an issue where independents side with the GOP, although the margins are not so wide (80% in favor vs. 56%). Overall, Americans favor opening up U.S. coastal waters by a 57% to 41%.

Now, what does this issue remind you of? How about gun control in the late 1990s?

10 posted on 06/20/2008 8:03:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: neverdem

“Offshore Drilling” used to be a queer bar in Myrtle Beach.


11 posted on 06/20/2008 8:04:38 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: neverdem

uh, not that I knew about it personally, or anything. Nope. Not me. noooosirreeeee. Wemins my thing! Yep. Gals, love them gals.


12 posted on 06/20/2008 8:05:55 PM PDT by CodeToad
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