Bob is an excellent alternative to voting for John McCain ... for the democrat party’s candidate. Bob Barr joined himself to the ACLU upon being ‘un-elected’. Barr is calling himself a libertarian now ... go figure.
Perhaps those of us who live in solid blue states that McCain has no chance of carrying anyway could vote for Barr.
Bob Barr = Ross Perot
Bob Barr is a good egg in the long run.
But who likes long, runny eggs?
He is a very strange person.
Check out the Constitution & Falcon parties. I rather like Badwin. Anything but the corrupt “Two-Party Cartel”.
OK Reality check. Sure, McCain’s not a Conservative (at best, he’s not conservative on some issues but is on others).
But think about the the SCOTUS. Obama is going to nominate at least one, possibly two or three judges who are going to be Souter/Ginsburg clones.
So a vote for Barr will help send the Supreme Court left, way left.
Can’t wait to hear from the anti-McCain people who complain he is not strongly enough against abortion.
I suspect many of them will go for Barr and the “pro-choice” Libertarian Party.
Every vote for Barr is simply a vote for Obama.
Bob Barr association with the ACLU has made him a no go.
Answer: NO.
There a NO good votes to be cast for president this year. There are only multiple shades of lesser evils. I think this is precisely why conservatives are so ticked off this year. There is NO ONE to vote FOR.
If you want President Obama or President Hillary, sure! Barr would be a terrible choice in a three-way race because he would assure a RAT win. Now, if Hillary and Obama were BOTH running, one as a third party, then it would be a whole different story. BUT ... Barr has a very late start and a lot of catching up to do for even a hint of viability. All he can do is draw off McCain votes and give us a RAT president for 4 years and a ultra left Supreme Court for the rest of our lives. We’re screwed.
If it’s McCain versus Obama (or, as I still think possible, Hillary Rodham Lenin) next November, one of them will be elected President. Bob Barr, Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney will not be elected President. So your choice is either McCain (ugh), Hillary (shudder) or Obama (be very afraid). The only decision is - who will screw up the country less?
No, I prefer Ross Perot.
That way, we can be sure that once Hillary gets the nomination that so many FReepers seem to be hoping for, she can trash John McDole and do it with less than 44% if the vote.
Just like Bubba in ‘92. Don’t stop thinkin’ about tomorrow folks....
No matter who is elected in November we are all screwed.
Let's face it, we like to blame the system for the lack of choice, but when it comes time to choose, our selection ends up being from one of the two major parties. In the end, we make up the system, we are the system. As Pogo said: "We have met the enemy, and he is us."
It's going to take some work to change that. Work by us, the system. If you don't like what you see, then get active in the GOP. Join! Go to the local meetings and speak your mind. There are things that you can do. If you are doing things, bravo! If not, why not? As Ronald Reagan said: "If not us, then who? If not now, when?". And let me add this: "If not us, then it will be the RINO."
Having said that, the more I listen to what Barr has to say, the more I like him.
“Good alternative” to sane, adult participation in the actual political process of presidential election?
Not really, no.
The Libertarian Party will be lucky if it can get on the ballot in most states. They can’t win even if they could qualify on all 50 state ballots.
Its critically important that we prevent Hillary or Obama from becoming President. If they’re in they’ll appoint all liberal judges to the Supreme Court and prevent us from correcting Judicial Invention. No matter how difficult McCain is or becomees he is still 10,000 times better than Obama, Hillary or any Democrat.
We have to push for McCain to take a very conservative Vice President like Fred Thompson. Thompson’s desk was next to McCain’s on the Senate floor and they’ve been good friends since. Thompson can bring the conservatives back under the Republican banner. He assures us that constructionist will be chose on the Court. He has will be a largely stabilizing force on the liberal fancies of McCain.
McCain - Thompson 08 !
That being said let's clear the air some on Barr's affiliation with the ACLU. Barr worked for them on personal privacy issues, topics that many conservatives would agree. He disagreed with some of the provisions of the Patriot Act, as did other conservatives, on a Constitutional basis.
I don't fault Barr or other conservatives for questioning some of the Act, I think there was sound, constitutional basis to do so and to not at least address them would be irresponsible. If there are questions, I say get them out in the open and discuss them because if they are wrong we need to understand that and if they are okay then it will only solidify that position.
The “torch and pitchfork” crowd want everyone to take to the streets just on the mention of the word ACLU. I agree they are usually at odds with conservative opinion, but that doesn't mean they always are and each situation needs to be judged on it's own merits. I'm not going to go back through the archives and make a list of when or where but I remember several times FReepers being in amazement that the ACLU “was on the right side” of a certain issue.
Although the odds may be with you, blindly being against something only because it has the ACLU attached to it makes about as much sense as being against welfare reform because Bill Clinton signed it into law.
As for Barr, I'm disappointed he may go to a 3rd party but as far as his association with the ACLU, to me he was taking money from them that might have gone to efforts more hated by the right. I can't support Barr's candidacy but this knee ignorant jerk hatred of him is almost pathological.
BTW - Barr was a good friend of Free Republic and our “congressional sponsor” for a long time. He passionately spoke at many of our rallies in DC and I sat in his office several times discussing issues important to all of us. You may disagree with him now and the path he has chosen but at least show him the respect an old friend of Free Republic deserves.
If you can’t vote for McCain the best alternative, I believe, is to write-in a vote for Ronald Reagan.
Could you imagine if Ronald Reagan got 3-4% of the vote instead of some fringe candidate? THAT would send a message. The proper message.