Posted on 05/20/2008 11:07:11 AM PDT by mmp813
Hey if business did not give them jobs or Bush enforced the border, illegals wouldnt be here. Youre focused on the wrong cause.
There's plenty of blame to go around. This isn't a zero-sum.
We can blame
Even if that organization just happens to be a church.
One look at the whackjob links on your FR homepage tells me all I need to know.
Take the Mexicans to Spain. Then they can disrupt people who speak the lingo.
Oh come on!
Spain is in economic crises now. But look at you, growing even with such scaring fuel prices!
And here is the quote from Michelle Malkin who surprisingly added “illegal” or “undocumented” to the word immigrant without it being there.....
Following a White House visit, a joint statement from the U.S. and the Vatican hinted that Benedict raised concerns with President Bush about punitive immigration laws. It said the leaders discussed the need for a coordinated policy regarding immigration, especially the humane treatment of immigrants and the well-being of their families.
I’m Catholic also, I have not given to The Bishop’s Annual Appeal last year and I won’t this year either because of this.
breaking a secular law does not = committing a religious sin.
The Parable of the Good Samaritan I think guides the conscience of many in the Church who help illegals.
You people need to bring Franco back. He knew how to handle Commies.
The agents you mentioned are certainly as culpable as the illegal invaders. But these people have made a conscious choice to flaunt our laws and violate our borders. And their home government, by encouraging and assisting them to do so, and profiting by their actions, has committed an act of War against the United States.
The Catholic Church isn’t wrong. They have their constituentcy just like Bush and Congress has theirs. At a time when the Church in the USA is shrinking, it only makes sense for them to support an influx of new parishoners from south of the border. Hispanics are predominantly believers and overwhelmingly Catholic.
It is our Government that is letting us down
General Franco was indeed an outstanding person.
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s = obey the law
From the Source
Correct, the law says you apply for a Green Card and you can come here legally.
What has been happening is that many Laws are being broken that the government can't ignore. 1) Identity Theft, 2) Social Security card fraud, 3) Illegal Immigration.
The right thing for churches to do, is to provide information and help to do the right thing. Supporting Identity Theft and Social Security Fraud is the wrong thing.
Inconvenient to the same world-view are several messages in the Gospel that poverty born of circumstance is altogether different from poverty born of laziness (which is unacceptable.)
I wonder what message it is you think the Good Samaritan is supposed to convey? What I learned -- in Catholic High School -- is that parable is more about the salvation of the Gentiles than it is about the person who receives charity. But even if the story is, in your interpretation, primarily about charity rather than the person who gives it, could the Church not provide charity to illegals by admonishing them not to break the law in the first place? Or to provide those who have with a good meal and a ticket back home?
Love is not primarily about giving people what they want, but about doing the right thing for them: simply because a certain criminal element in our government, Mexico 's government, and among American employers lures them here, this is not the best thing for Mexico. Nor is it the best thing for America, or ultimately for the Church. If the Church wants to do good works for Mexico, it should focus on the endemic corruption and criminality that has made the country ungovernable, disease ridden, and impoverished despite a beneficent climate and a wealth of natural resources.
Sorry any Church is not in the law enforcement business. Churches have been in the sanctuary business. Bush is in the law enforcement business. If employers can find the illegals, then Bush should have no trouble finding them.
Churches may not be in the law enforcment business, but they sure as hell aren’t in the law-breaking business and if they are, they should be put OUT of business.
Why are you saying Churches should be put out of business but not business law breakers? You are not really interested in solving illegal migration are you?
You've obviously mistaken the prudential acts/statements of some in the episcopacy with the actual teaching of the Church but then you have no idea what the actual teaching of the Church is, do you?
2241 The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.
Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.(emphasis added for your much needed edification)
Suggest you actually familiarize yourself with the teaching of the Church posted here rather than continue confusing the behavior of individuals within the Church with the teaching of the Church. Unless of course you enjoy coming across as a fool.
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