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1 posted on 05/08/2008 7:40:03 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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What will you choose - objectivism or relativism?


2 posted on 05/08/2008 7:41:53 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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3 posted on 05/08/2008 7:44:05 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Good post - here's another take:

Academic freedom and diversity of opinion died a couple of decades ago. Here is how the game is played: They will first try to convince you that you are a racist, a sexist, and an enemy of social justice. Then they will argue that the victims of racism, sexism, and cultural elitism have a privileged view of these issues. It is as if the victim of the crime were to be given the first, last, and only word in a trial, with no cross-examination and no other witnesses called. Your job as a student in the multicultural classroom is to grant unquestioned authority to those who come from underprivileged or marginalized backgrounds. You have to do this because, you will learn, because Western culture has exploited every other culture, and your experiences are so shaped by Western culture that you cannot question those who criticize you. And thus you will become a good cultural leftist (which is the shape liberalism takes in the academy), or, if you are not convinced by these arguments, you will learn how to fake it for the sake of getting a good grade.

All of this is profoundly anti-Christian, which is why Christian students are typically the most radical questioners of higher education. Because Christians believe in a universal human nature, they also believe they can make universal truth claims about human nature. That does not mean that every statement about human nature is true. Of course not! A central part of education is learning how to argue by testing your own ideas about human nature against the ideas found in great books and the ideas espoused by your teachers and fellow students. Christians believe, for example, that because we are created in the image of God, every single person is of infinite worth, but Christians also believe that humans are fallen creatures, in need of grace and forgiveness. Christians are thus able to appreciate both the majesty and the misery of human actions. That is a powerful framework for questioning what you read and hear. What Christians do not believe is that every culture has its own truths and that the only way to learn about another culture is to refrain from seeking the universal truth.

“Christianity inspired and informed the highest achievements of Western culture in order to challenge people to think about the eternal things, like heaven and hell, God, grace, forgiveness, and death. A college education should immerse you in the highest achievements of Western culture in order to give you the tools to enrich your experiences and refine you moral judgments. Education in this sense is about coming to know yourself, not because you construct your own reality, but because your nature is the same as everyone else’s. When a multiculturalist professor tells you that all truth is relative, ask him how he knows that, and when he tells you that Western culture is wicked and wrong, ask him what cultural criteria he is using to make that comparison. Better yet, do not ask your professors these questions, because multiculturalism is killing higher education as sure as the Romans killed Jesus. Share your questions with your friends, find a professor friendly to your faith, and keep higher education in your prayers.”

Stephen H. Webb, ’83, is professor of religion and philosophy at Wabash College.

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4 posted on 05/08/2008 7:52:36 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (What value does Black Liberation Theology hold in a post racial Republic?)
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Based on the headline I thought it was an outline of the DNC platform.


7 posted on 05/08/2008 8:12:56 AM PDT by relictele
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I SEEM, therefore I AM.


9 posted on 05/08/2008 8:24:26 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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15 posted on 05/08/2008 8:56:53 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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If some want to produce societies that say that certain things are homophobic, then some in society can also produce a society that says that those same things aren’t homophobic.

Based upon relativism - it would all be relative to POV


19 posted on 05/08/2008 9:30:35 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Reminds me of the woman who said, "Of course I'm a solipsist. I can't understand why everyone isn't."
22 posted on 05/08/2008 9:45:11 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Relativists cannot base their worldview on relativism when it suits them, and then turn to asking someone whether or not an opposing worldview or something they posit is abolutely true.

They either believe in absolutes (moral, cultural) or they don’t.

If they don’t believe in moral, cultural absolutes, how then can they say that something is, or ask if something is absolutely right or wrong? They are asking a question that they do not intend to agree with when answered.

Why?

To them it is all relative to POV.


25 posted on 05/08/2008 9:52:04 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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According to relativism, an American society which states that certain acts are definitely manifestations of homophobia, racism, sexism, bigotry, greed and so on would not be superior to an American society which rejects certain acts as definitely being homophobic, racist, sexist, bigotted, greedy and so on.

Central to Political Correctness is that homophobia, racism, sexism, bigotry and greed are inherently morally wrong. But the assertion that these things are morally wrong is an absolutist position.

The nightmare scenario for a relativist is to succeed in proving that a position is racist, and have his audience respond "OK, so we're racist. We're cool with that. So what's your point?"

39 posted on 05/08/2008 10:19:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." — George Orwell)
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