Posted on 04/18/2008 11:39:55 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch
UPDATE: Friday April 18
The "Sixteen year old girl." A hoax???
I am SPITTING mad. Texas authorities better have those children back in their mothers arms by tonight.
"A 33-year-old Colorado Springs woman has been questioned about a telephone call that sparked a raid at the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints compound in western Texas two weeks ago.
Rozita Swinton was arrested at her home Wednesday night by Colorado Springs police for an incident that occurred in February. Members of the Texas Rangers were also in Colorado Springs as part of their investigation.
"The Texas Rangers were in Colorado Springs (Wednesday) as part of their investigation involving the compound in Texas. They left and have not filed any charges on Rozita Swinton as of this time," said Colorado Springs police spokesman Lt. Skip Arms.
Colorado Springs police said the arrest warrant has been sealed and refused to release any other details, reported Deseret News."
(Excerpt) Read more at naturalfamilyblog.com ...
Well, that is yet to be proven. In fact, other than the statements of the self-serving government representatives, not one shred of evidence that any abuse has taken place has been put forward. Well, except for the "evidence" referred to at the top of this thread.
Unless you have some inside information that the rest of us haven't seen.
From what I have seen what we have is the state abusing a religious minority. The representatives of the state have screamed that abuses are going on. They have yet to produce a single witness.
And the "evidence" that they used as pretext to seizing 471 children is that someone from the inside called a hotline and reported it. That person named a man who doesn't live anywhere near the compound. And it turns out that that person isn't even a member of FLDS.
Now considering that the sheriff had an informant on the inside for four year one wonders why they waited until they got the hoax phonecall before snatching all of those children up and placing them in the warm, caring arms of the government.
“Except that the “children” that “cried out” turns out not to be a child or someone from the FLDS group.”
LOL We raid child rapists and you are peeved to the hilt.
You know we got their leader on these rape charges last year.
His is the picture that you see hanging over the children’s beds on the videos of the compounds interior bedrooms.
The world she lived in in that auster place and not taken to a place she had been brain washed all her life to fear.
This call was a hoax but there sure is some thing that was going on there.
Before you go further please check out a few warning signs tha that have been springing like a leak over the past several years!
Dr Phil Inside the Cult
Dr. Phil delves further inside a controversial polygamous community where girls as young as 14 are reportedly forced to marry older men who have multiple wives, and young boys are forced to leave town.
Inside the World of Polygamy Last year 'Hannity's America' gave you a rare and shocking look inside Warren Jeffs' secretive Eldorado, Texas compound, where April 7 hundreds were taken and an arrest made
[BTW Sean is very fond of the LDS, not to be confused with FLDS]
I am SPITTING mad.
With time and a little luck maybe you’ll get over it.
A mommy of five and home schooling. I wish your children success.
“In fact, other than the statements of the self-serving government representatives, not one shred of evidence that any abuse has taken place has been put forward.”
This cult was raided in 1935, 1944, 1953, Utah claims to have planned a raid in 2006 or 7, they had 80 warrants, but well, you know Utah. Canada investigated the branch in British Columbia, where some of the Texas kids were shipped from, and put the fear of God in that leader, although they have not acted yet, he now publicly claims that his branch has ended the use of under aged children.
“””Alarmed that the sect’s members were building a compound, Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff urged Texas lawmakers in 2005 to strengthen its laws. He described the sect in stark terms.
“Imagine a community run as a theocracy, where women are considered nothing but property,” Shurtleff told the Legislature, “where women have two purposes — to please their man sexually and have children.”
Texas lawmakers heeded the advice and made sweeping changes to Texas law against polygamy and underage marriage”””
“””In 2001, Utah authorities began a crackdown on underage marriages and arranged marriages of teenagers, targeting members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a Mormon splinter group that had lived in two towns on the Utah-Arizona border.”””
“””After seeing high-profile FLDS Church critic Flora Jessop on the ABC television program Primetime Live on March 4, 2004, concerned Eldorado residents contacted Jessop. She investigated and on March 25, 2004, Jessop held a press conference in Eldorado confirming that the new neighbors were FLDS Church adherents. On May 18, 2004, Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran and his Chief Deputy visited Colorado City, and the FLDS Church officially acknowledged that the Schleicher County property would be a new base for the church. It has been reported in the media that the church is building a temple at the YFZ Ranch, which has been supported by evidence including aerial photographs of a large stone structure (approximately 88 feet wide) being built. Recent pictures now show the temple in a state of relative completion. A local newspaper, the Eldorado Success, reported that the temple foundation was dedicated January 1, 2005 by Warren Jeffs.[20]
On January 10, 2004, the church suffered major upheaval when Dan Barlow, the mayor of Colorado City, and about 20 men were excommunicated from the church and stripped of their wives and children (who would be reassigned to other men), and the right to live in the town. As a result, a few teenage women reportedly fled the towns with the aid of activists who advocate the escape of plural wives from polygamy. Two of the young women, Fawn Broadbent and Fawn Holm, soon found themselves in a broadly publicized dispute over their freedom and custody. They fled state custody together on February 15, and have been on the run in multiple states since.
In October 2004, disaffected members of the church reported that David Allred purchased a 60-acre (240,000 m²) parcel of land near Mancos, Colorado (midway between Cortez and Durango) about the same time he bought the Schleicher County property. Allred told authorities the parcel is to be used as a hunting retreat.
In July 2005 eight men of the church were indicted for sexual contact with minors. At least some of them surrendered to police in Kingman, Arizona.
On July 29, 2005, Brent Jeffs filed suit accusing three of his uncles, including Warren Jeffs, of sexually assaulting him when he was a child. The suit also named the FLDS Church as a defendant. On August 10, former FLDS Church member Shem Fischer, Dan Fischer’s brother, added the church and Warren Jeffs as defendants to a 2002 lawsuit claiming he was illegally fired because he no longer adhered to the faith. Fischer, who was a salesman for a wooden cabinetry business in Hildale, claims church officials interfered with his relationship with his employer and blacklisted him.
In July 2005, a half-dozen lost boys who say they were cast out of their homes on the Utah–Arizona border to reduce competition for wives filed suit against the FLDS Church. “The [boys] have been excommunicated pursuant to that policy and practice and have been cut off from family, friends, benefits, business and employment relationships, and purportedly condemned to eternal damnation,” their suit says. “They have become ‘lost boys’ in the world outside the FLDS community.”
On May 7, 2006, the FBI named Warren Jeffs to their Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list on charges of sexual misconduct with minors.
The mayor of Colorado City, Terrill C. Johnson, was arrested on May 26, 2006 for eight fraudulent vehicle registration charges (providing false registration and title papers eight separate times)—a felony. He was booked in to Purgatory Correctional Facility in Hurricane, Utah and was released after paying the $5,000 bail in cash.[21]
On August 28, 2006, Warren Jeffs was captured on Interstate 15 just north of Las Vegas, Nevada, after a routine traffic stop. He was captured with his brother, Isaac Steve Jeffs, and one of his wives, Naomi Jeffs, both 32. Isaac and Naomi were both released. Jeffs was tried in St. George, Utah and was found guilty by a jury of two counts of being an accomplice to rape.
November 2007
A judge sentenced polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs to five years to life Tuesday for his role in the arranged marriage between a 14-year-old follower and her 19-year-old cousin.
A jury in Utah convicted Jeffs, the so-called “prophet” of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, of two counts of accomplice to rape for “enticing” Elissa Wall to marry and have sex with her cousin, Allen Steed, despite her objections
Harry Reid's dream...
Really? Do you have a link, because as far as I can see, there was a woman who is being questioned in regards to prank calls to a different group than the one that triggered the initial warrant. It looks like you believe in due process for the child-rapists, but not for the prank-caller, who is not even accused of this particular prank.
Maybe so, maybe no.
Considering that the sheriff had an informant on the inside for four years and DID NOTHING, but waited until this phone call was announced to the media makes me wonder.
I am with you on that brother.
I see you still trying the old "guilt by association" angle.
I'll ask again. Is there any evidence that anyone there abused children other than the hoax phone call?
Good reason to stop it. I wonder how many of the kids act like the mothers that were on tv.
So your answer is to take them from a foster home where there is a slim chance that they might be molested and put them back into the cult compound where there is a 100% chance that they will be molested?
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Really? Is there another polygamist group in Texas that was recently raided? If not, then this is the same girl
It looks like you believe in due process for the child-rapists, but not for the prank-caller, who is not even accused of this particular prank.
Where does due process come into this? I haven't suggested that anything be done to the alleged prankster. I've just said that prank call seems to be the only evidence the government had prior to the raid.
Funny, that seems to be exactly what you're doing. You are certainly not advocating that anyone try and stop it, are you?
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