Posted on 04/18/2008 11:39:55 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch
UPDATE: Friday April 18
The "Sixteen year old girl." A hoax???
I am SPITTING mad. Texas authorities better have those children back in their mothers arms by tonight.
"A 33-year-old Colorado Springs woman has been questioned about a telephone call that sparked a raid at the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints compound in western Texas two weeks ago.
Rozita Swinton was arrested at her home Wednesday night by Colorado Springs police for an incident that occurred in February. Members of the Texas Rangers were also in Colorado Springs as part of their investigation.
"The Texas Rangers were in Colorado Springs (Wednesday) as part of their investigation involving the compound in Texas. They left and have not filed any charges on Rozita Swinton as of this time," said Colorado Springs police spokesman Lt. Skip Arms.
Colorado Springs police said the arrest warrant has been sealed and refused to release any other details, reported Deseret News."
(Excerpt) Read more at naturalfamilyblog.com ...
Sex with a minor is still a crime.
12 men from the FLDS have been indicted and/or convicted of that exact charge.
The SCOTUS has already determined that acts of polygamy cannot be protected by the first amendment. Polygmay is against the law in all 50 States.
Even though we aren’t necessarily focused on polygamy right now, but child rape, I can assure you the SCOTUS would deem child rape not protected by the First Amendment.
Remember the Edmunds-Tucker act, Ms. Hatch?
“Hit in the head too many times or something.”
GOOGLE : THE BREAKING
GOOGLE : BE SWEET
GOOGLE : The LAW OF PLACING
NOW, read this:
The Colorado City/Hildale area has the world’s highest incidence of fumarase deficiency,[53] an extremely rare genetic condition which causes severe mental retardation.
Geneticists attribute this to the prevalence of cousin marriage between descendants of two of the town’s founders, Joseph Smith Jessup and John Yeates Barlow; one local historian reports that 75–80 percent of the double-communities’ roughly 10,000 inhabitants are descended from one or both of these men
THANK YOU.
Some people seem to be incapable of realizing that. They defend the *rights* of the perps, but don't have a problem letting the perps deny those under them their Constitutional rights. Those women and children living there had none. They were not permitted by other citizens of this country who are more than willing to exercise their own. And the government should just let that go?
I was told by a another FReeper that I don't have a Constitutional right to be free from being raped or abused. I'll have to look the post up. I couldn't believe it.
What you are obviously trying to do Jenny is whip up Conservative support and sympathy for the FLDS, RLDS, and LDS churches.
I can sense a panic regarding this. I don't know why.
What separates the FLDS and LDS sects? Not much.
Polygamy as it exists per the law is the only difference I have been able to find. The Book of Mormon, Doctrines and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price are all shared by the LDS churches. The Temple ceremonies are (for what we know) the same.
The heritage and history are the same. The links to Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and early church leaders are exactly the same.
The Amish are not "next" as you say. Let me tell you a difference between them and the LDS church.
When an evil man gunned down several small Amish girls and teachers in a school house do you remember what the Amish did immediately after-wards?
They forgave.
How can the Amish forgive what seems unforgivable?
Why?
Matthew 18:22
Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.
Can you think of anything more horrible than murdering little girls in cold blood? You talk about how "horrible" it is what the state of Texas has done to investigate charges of abuse. That pales in comparison to what the Amish community suffered - and yet they acted as Christ would have done.
The FLDS, LDS, and RLDS communities, by contrast, have lashed out all over the web. The history and beliefs of the collective "Mormon" (I know many LDS don't like the term) community have a chance to show the world what they are really about. How are they reacting? This is the FLDS, LDS, and RLDS shot to show the world what they are all about. "By their fruits shall you know them." (Matthew 7:16)
I saw on a thread some time ago, when this all started, that most of them had not got past a second grade education level.
Well, I see you are the target (of other posters, not me) today.
Interesting being picked on, when in truth you are totally correct.
Also, I was trying to get you all to lighten up, the other day, with DONEIT.
And yet I wouldn’t lighten up on you.
So, let me say I share the guilt in making that thread the mess that it was.
(However, all the FLDS threads have turned into a mess, so it isn’t just me and you)
No, this black girl could never have had any contact with the fLDS.
I doubt 1/10th of them have ever even picked up a copy of the Federalist Papers to understand the meaning behind the intent of what the Constitution says. Many are more akin to Fred Phelps quoting the Bible to justify what he does.
“It may be the lesser of two evils, but each kid needs to be looked at individually and the state’s wish to take them all at once should not be granted. “
It is my understanding that they took them all at once, and that hearings on EACH INDIVIDUAL CHILD started yesterday, continue today, and will continue until all 400 some children have ‘been looked at individually’.
No matter how long it takes.
No, this black girl could never have had any contact with the fLDS.
That is very true.
I will admit I knew nothing about this FLDS sect, until the first big thread, recently, on FR.
I haven’t wasted any time in doing my research though.
Since I know from your previous posts (here, and there) that you are a deeply involved individual in stopping this kind of immoral and illegal activity, Just how long have you been working closely with this issue?
Not being nosy, or trying to jam you for anything, just idly curious. I would even listen to a detailed list of your experiences, if you wished to mention them.
I’m not a lawyer, but I’ve watched a lot of Law & Order episodes.
And they would call anything discovered in this trumped up raid, “fruit of the poisoned tree” and it would not be allowed into evidence.
The Texas Attorney General was on F&F this morning and took pains to say anything they discovered while at the compound, i.e. underage girls either pregant or having had a child, was admissable because they had a ‘good faith’ reason for going in there.
Already read it and just wondering how much it will cost to care for them the rest of their lives.
Heck. After that, I can just sit back and don’t have make any posts any more.
You’re saying it all for me.
The same kind of proof I would offer to a silly statement like that.
Kinda like you are ‘channeling’ me.
Go get em, tiger.
“Everyone’s an armchair constitutional law expert all of the sudden. And inadvertent sit-down comedians...”
Do I get my choice?
She looks like a willing participant./ extremely heavy sarcasm
Where’d they get that picture?
I am quite sure that that is a crime in Texas. I suspect that it violates the Education Code in every state in the Union. That ALONE is reason enough to take these children from their parents and to make them wards of the State.
But do you think it will affect these molestation defenders' and polygamy enablers' opinions?
No they will cry out for these poor wretched children to be forcibly returned to their "Parents" to continue in their dehumanizing abuse of these poor souls and then justify the the whole thing by hiding behind the Constitution.
Pathetic.
We must make children suffer abuse, stay under-educated, un-doctored and raped for the good of the Constitution. < /sarc>
Ye gads ~~~
Let's just clarify here. Larry the Cable Guy's Morning Constitutionals is not the US Constitution, even if it has the word Constitution in it. The US Constitution protects people from being treated as property by another person. It also grants the States the authority to establish criminal code within that State (I posted above), thus, they couldn't be hiding behind the US Constitution.
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