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1 posted on 04/08/2008 9:08:15 AM PDT by joeclarke
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To: joeclarke
I don't know who the dolt is that wrote this but bringing up the example of the lesbian kids shows that the CPS in Texas did the right thing in being proactive.

I suspect one reason that they took all the kids is because they didn't want to chance having another Waco like disaster.

Better to remove the children and get the info they need that way instead of going back to the ranch all the time.

2 posted on 04/08/2008 9:13:15 AM PDT by JRochelle (Voting Obama on May 6.)
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“Conservative” families will be scrutinized, and their children taken on a pretext,

but victim groups, ie, “liberal mascot” families, will be protected from having their future welfare recipient children taken from them.

This is typical of leftists.


3 posted on 04/08/2008 9:14:27 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: joeclarke

Could not the protective services people have done any sort of investigation before taking the Amish-like children and women from the Temple?


That’s the purpose of the Temp Custody detainment which last for 14 days and they have to be returned or another court order obtained.

As far as Waco and this situation there are miles apart. The Waco event was a Federal Gov’t event and this Eldorado event is a State of Texas action...... Two different senarios entirely. The CPS may have been in Waco but weren’t the lead.......


7 posted on 04/08/2008 9:23:37 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: joeclarke

But, how did one anonymous voice message from one girl at the Yearning For Zion Ranch instigate Texas Child Protective Services to confiscate 400 children without an investigation?

I don’t know but thank God the State of Texas is taking care of these kids from those sick freaks. It is disgusting and revoting to know folks like this exist.


9 posted on 04/08/2008 9:27:30 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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Yes, polygamy is illegal,as is pedophilia, and old men marrying too-young girls in Eldorado, Texas.

But

NEVER a wise notion to attempt following any sentence of that sort with the word "But," in all honesty.

10 posted on 04/08/2008 9:27:51 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: joeclarke
The bigger problem is that these children are going to end up as wards of the state, cost millions in foster care, cost millions more in therapy and rehab efforts, and probably cost even more in terms of lives when all those efforts fail and they perhaps become suicide victims or substance abusers...paid, of course, by Mr. and Ms. Taxpayer of America.

Accordingly, there is a role for government here: Storm fundamental cults of worship that deviate from the mainstream and castrate the perps who sexually abuse any minor. (Go ahead and flame, I have my asbestos suit on).

37 posted on 04/09/2008 11:12:35 AM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 285 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

“Sarah” was a hoax. The Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_8966589) reported that a 33 year old Colorado woman was arrested for making prank calls, purporting to be “Sarah”. Calls made by this woman seemed to have been the basis on which the whole paramilitary operation was launched.

Texas authorities acknowledge that “Sarah” probably doesn’t exist, which removes all justifications for the action.

It also seems that there were only half a dozen pregnant women aged between 16 and 19 on the ranch, a rate of teenage pregnancy that is actually lower than the national average.

It may also be worth taking into account that Texas law allowed 14 year olds to marry with parental consent until 2005 and had been clearly targeted at this group.

I hate polygamous sects, as they tend to be enclaves for dirty old men “marrying” young girls, but what is of even greater concern is the manifest abuse of power that can be used against anyone. The involvement and rulings of the judge in this case, who also authorized the raid, should also be questioned. Her ruling that all 416 children are now wards of the state will guarantee that many of these children will be brutalized and marginalized on top of whatever experiences they’ve already been through.

The rule of law and due process is meant for everyone, not just for the people we approve of. That is clearly not happening here, and demonizing people to justify illicit operations is the wrong way to handle any situation.


50 posted on 04/21/2008 8:28:58 PM PDT by Jungle Djinn
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