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No More Great Presidents
Mises Institute ^ | 2/19/2007 | Robert Higgs

Posted on 02/18/2008 6:32:50 PM PST by traviskicks

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To: tear gas

are you being sarcastic?


21 posted on 02/18/2008 8:07:19 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

yea, agreed. especially about the TVA, people were defending it on here on a thread not too long back.

My favorite quote from last year I actually missed it this year, until i reread it now:

“American liberty will never be reestablished so long as elites and masses alike look to the president to perform supernatural feats and therefore tolerate his virtually unlimited exercise of power.”

I think this says a lot. It reminds me of this quote:

Lao Tse said that the evil leader is the one whom the people despise, the good leader is the one whom the people revere, but the greatest leader of all is the one who causes the people to cheer that “we did it ourselves”.


22 posted on 02/18/2008 8:10:28 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Ping to read later


23 posted on 02/18/2008 8:17:04 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: traviskicks
"Lao Tse said that the evil leader is the one whom the people despise, the good leader is the one whom the people revere, but the greatest leader of all is the one who causes the people to cheer that “we did it ourselves"

Brilliant!!! The only president who comes close to that is Reagan. In his farewell speech he mentioned that he wanted his presidency to be remembered for making Americans feel pride in themselves. It was a homage to the average hard working guy. Not a big ego trip for himself. Contrast that to any democrat today and how he/she will get government to DO something FOR you.

24 posted on 02/18/2008 8:38:33 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: All

We would have more great presidents IF voters would RESEARCH the candidates, rather than go by name recognition, or just vote for the candidates that the media puts before them all the time.


25 posted on 02/18/2008 8:45:16 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter:pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating!)
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To: traviskicks

Have we no George Washingtons among us?


26 posted on 02/18/2008 8:56:34 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: WOSG
FDR was the WORST president in American History from the perspective of liberty:

LBJ?

27 posted on 02/18/2008 9:57:11 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: traviskicks

There are lots of great Americans out there capable of being a better president of the U.S. than these clowns we have running in 08.


28 posted on 02/18/2008 9:58:35 PM PST by television is just wrong (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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I have a theory: left-liberal historians worship political power, and idolize those who wield it most lavishly in the service of left-liberal causes.

Duh, you could not get an honest discussion out of liberals if you tried.

The one thing that makes great president is LEADERSHIP. Not welfare and other liberal big government causes, as liberals see things. Notice how in any discussion liberals never mention leadership, even when talking about their heroes.

At least conservatives can say they liked FDR for example, because he had leadership qualites.

29 posted on 02/18/2008 10:15:33 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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“FDR was the WORST president in American History from the perspective of liberty:”

“LBJ?”

You saw the litany. FDR let Alger Hiss, a spy for Stalin, set up the United Nations. FDR started his term by recognizing Stalin’s USSR, and ended it by giving Eastern Europe to Stalin. LBJ fought badly in vietnam, but he fought. LBJ gave us abe fortas; FDR packed the whole danged supreme court - or tried. 90% of the alphabet soup agencies around DC sprung up under FDR. Before FDR the Federal govt was about 3-4% fo GDP. When he was done, the Federal govt was 25% of GDP!! FDR had 13 years, LBJ only 5.

Truman and LBJ were at least anti-communists, but FDR was about as clueless in dealing with them and/or was a symp. to such an extent that it hobbled us for years, and led to infiltration of the US Govt by soviet spies.

LBJ, Clinton, JFK, they all were pikers compared to the big cahuna of collectivist-liberalism-run-amok, FDR.


30 posted on 02/18/2008 10:23:37 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Grover Cleveland, Ronald Reagan, Calvin Coolidge were all good to great presidents. If those three arent in the top 10, they are not scoring it right.

McKinley, US Grant, and Harding are routinely under-rated.

I suspect G W Bush will be an underrated president too by the lib profs.


31 posted on 02/18/2008 10:27:34 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: traviskicks
The Constitution is now viewed as an impediment to their goals and ambitions. They will quote it when they need it, but wish it would go away when they don't.

It is our Constitution, not theirs. It is our wall, between us, and tyranny, tyranny of the majority, and tyranny of government.

Anyone who does not know this, and honor it, is not a republican.

32 posted on 02/18/2008 10:28:13 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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“I remember hearing someone go on and on about the virtues of Coolidge. I thought they were crazy. The only thing I knew about him was the “keep cool with Coolidge” campaign. He didn’t DO anything. Now I realize how great that guy was because he didn’t believe in a big government telling citizens how to live. And to show you how far we’ve come, the guy was from VERMONT. Land of the liberal nanny-staters.”

Under Coolidge the economy grew by about one third, kind of like the Reagan boom. And for the same reason - under Treas. Secty Mellon, the tax rates were cut significantly and the economy boomed under reduced tax burden.

Yes, Coolidge did something. He got the h8ll out of the way of the American economy and let ‘er rip.


33 posted on 02/18/2008 10:30:06 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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