RINO or Conservative: Who Scores Best?

1/15/08 | Dwar

[DWar]

I just read your profile page and found out you’re a pastor.

Former pastor. Current business man. Still a Jesus loving Evangelical Christian.

No offense taken. ;^}

[DWar]

You’ve gotta point.

[DocRock]

"I was surprise, too. Look at the individual issues and tell me where I should adjust."

Duncan Hunter on Globalism and Free Trd should be a 10

[DWar]

And most of them aren’t even “good”.

Excellent or even good can be comparative adjectives.

When compared to Hillary in the White House and Bill in the Lincoln bedroom doing who knows what (perhaps we do know what), how do the Republicans look compared to that?

I think any of them would be excellent by that comparison.

[jwalsh07]

Man you got a lot of time on your hands...:-}

But I'll say this for ya, you made good use of it. Nice job.

[DWar]

Thanks for the input. I’ll take some of your suggestios under advisement for the revision. See the next post after yours, #186, for Giuliani and SCOTUS appointments.

[xjcsa]

How?

Import tariffs are a tax that is paid by the consumer. Export subsidies are a benefit paid to the consumer in the importing country.

[DWar]

You make a good point.

But as you said Romney, today says he has "come around on many of his formerly liberal positions. His statement you quote was made 8 years ago when he was fighting for influence in the most liberal state in the union. A lot can happen in 8 years.

He now seems to say he will appoint strict constructionists. Nevertheless I think anyone would have a tough time bucking the NRA, the conservtive American heartland and 140 million Ameican gun owners (I own 7).

At some point we've gotta trust one of these guys.

[calcowgirl]

I did. (You said "Giuliani is on the record committing to appointing "Strict Constructionist judges" in the model of Scalia and Roberts.") I still take strong objection. His actual record does not support it. You are relying on Giuliani's utterances of strict constructionist. Blackmun was just that--and terrible. Remember, this is the man who thinks women have a right to abortion, and the funding thereof. This is the man that joined with Bill Clinton and Janet Reno in their efforts to institute federal gun licensing. This is the man that has sued to take away our 2nd amendment rights.

Giuliani himself said:

"a strict constructionist judge can come to either conclusion about Roe against Wade. They can look at it and say, 'Wrongly decided. ... We will overturn it.' They can look at it and say, 'It has been the law for this period of time, therefore we are going to respect the precedent.'

"I would leave it up to them. I would not have a litmus test on that."

In retrospect, I'd give Giuliani a 2, no--make that a zero, on the SCOTUS line.

[DWar]

"Man you got a lot of time on your hands...:-}"

That's about to change, sigh.

[DWar]

You make some good points. I’ll take them under advisement.

[Kevmo]

If there’s no FRed and no Hunter and we’re left with the four headless RINOs, then what?
January 10, 2008 | Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951714/posts

[DWar]

I’m aware of that thread and have posted to it. Thanks though.

[dmw]

I’m so sick of these RINO’s here masquerading as conservatives while pimping their RINO candidates. Maybe it’s time for JR to dust off the bug zapper and start zapping those who are here working against what this forum stands for.

[RetiredArmy]

Aye, you are correct re Jefferson I believe. Basically, I just cannot believe that Americans have become what they have become. I guess the old crap saying that we have got to fat, to lazy, and to rich may actually be true. Americans are arrogant. They have got to the point that they believe that everything is OWED to them and that everything is a RIGHT, that you don’t have to earn anything any more, because the government and the MSM has pounded it into their heads that they are ENTITLED to all this free stuff, and that the only reason that they don’t have anything is because, rich, fat, white men have kept them down and are keeping them down through racism, and such crap. We are in a sorry state. I just don’t see it getting any better. As much as I like Thompson and Hunter, they cannot do it alone. Even if elected, they are still up against the total Marxist Dimocrat Party and all the RINOs in the RINOcrat Socialist Party. So, they will not be able to change anything. Washington, D.C. is the present day Sodom. It all comes from there. All the garbage, trash, junk, lies, porno, abortion, homos, it all comes from there.

[penowa]

"Giuliani is on the record committing to appointing 'Strict Constructionist judges' in the model of Scalia and Roberts."

If you believe that, I have more than one bridge to sell you! We will get ONLY liberal appointees because a Democrat Senate, most probably a fillibuster-proof one, will NOT allow anyone else to be appointed. Rudy would get a pass for following his liberal agenda and putting another generation of progressive Justices on the court without having to answer to those who believed his "promise." Lucky for us, Giuliani has about as much chance of being elected as Kucinich does.

As you've acknowledged, the war in Iraq is a no-go. The next president, as I said, will leave troops there only to back-up the Iraqi troops.

[pay dirt]

Very interesting analysis, DWar. I took a “test” online and was shocked that the candidate who was more akin to my opinions on a variety of issues and sub-issues was Mitt Romney. Thompson would have been a close second. When comparing the two, the differences shown were more a difference of importance on the few issues. One must take these online tests with a grain of salt, of course, but I was left thinking that perhaps I should give Romney a second glance.

[pay dirt]

The rest are RINOs at their core. Based on their past, McCain is more conservative than Romney. That should tell you alot.

Your comment is one I just have to include in the, "say what???" segment of my notebook. LOL I know that Romney has shown some flip-floppin' tendencies, but I also know that McCain has stood strong on some issues that are totally against what a Republican/Conservative believes in. On tax cuts alone, McCain is still as clueless as ever.

[Kevmo]

Same here.

Here’s one suggestion that I’ve floated:

When all the smoke clears, if Hunter doesn’t get the nomination, I have one more suggestion for all of us remaining conservative freepers. It would make sense for us to have an idealogy score, a set of questions with rankings of how important the issue is and how strongly a freeper agrees/disagrees with it. We could all put these results on our home pages, so that when another freeper is debating with us (or us with them) we could just go to their home page, check their score on that issue & others, and realize “Ohhh, this is a Ron Paul supporter” or “ohh, this guy is a small l libertarian” or “ohh, this guy is a Big F FISCAL Conservative and a small l social liberal.”

It’s okay for FR to be inundated with RINOs or have a bunch of liberals posting here, as long as they’re up front about it.

[DWar]

Would appreciate your input on this thread. Thanks.