Hillary's New Uncertain Inevitability (CNN pollster can't save Hillary's campaign)

ConspiracySquirrels.com ^ | January 7, 2007 | Patrick Casey

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Throughout the year, CNN has been 'supportive' of Hillary's Presidential campaign. Polls commissioned by CNN and conducted by Opinion Research have usually been lagging in reflecting negative Clinton campaign news that have been picked up by other polls. That's primarily because CNN's polling partner, Opinion Research, was bought by a 'Friend of Bill' and major Clinton donor Vinod Gupta. With Opinion Research's parent company infoUSA now under SEC investigation because of questionable practices that have allegedly been used to benefit the Clinton's, CNN seems to be turning to other polling entities to gather accurate, in-state information on many of the primary states.

That's bad for the Clintons. CNN's not going to let its 'credibility' be weakened with other Democrats by continuing to try to help out team Clinton. Hillary was hoping that as long as she had one or two major polls showing her close to (or even still leading) Obama in New Hampshire, she'd be able to either slow or reverse the migration of Democrats from her camp to his. CNN's Political Ticker tacitly ends the Clinton Victory Parade this morning by showing that as of yesterday, even CNN's poll (conducted in conjunction with New Hampshire's WMUR) is showing Hillary down by 10 points literally hours before the New Hampshire Primary.

Mark Penn, Clinton's chief strategist, spent his Saturday looking for the Obama bounce. Yesterday, it found him.

Barack Obama has a 10-point edge over Hillary Clinton among likely Democratic primary voters in New Hampshire in the CNN/WMUR poll released Sunday afternoon, with 39 percent support to Clinton’s 29 percent. John Edwards has slipped to 16 percent. The apparent Obama surge seems to be sapping support from Clinton and Edwards, both down several points from the last CNN poll.

And as for one of the Clinton's major lines of attack against Obama that she's been trying out for a few weeks:

The electability issue is now officially a non-starter for the Clinton campaign: 42 percent of those primary voters now say Obama has the best chance of beating the Republican nominee. Even more troubling for the New York senator, two out of three Democrats – a new high — now say the ability to bring change is more important than experience.

Hillary claim of "experience" was spurious at best, her "electability" attack hewed uncomfortably towards racism, and now she's trying unsuccessfully to refer to herself as a "35 year" agent of change, which is laughable. I wouldn't want to be Bill Clinton these days.

[keat]

So true. Like my post below. As of two hours ago, CNN is reporting the 10 point lead as 9. Shameless.

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She may be about to get her “ample buttocks” handed to her. One can only hope! ;-)

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Her inevitability has nothing to do with polls, except of the super delegates to the Democratic Convention. Bill will pull in his chits and, given the fear factor that dealing with Clinton's has produced since their Arkansas days, she will get the 2025 delegates she needs for the nomination. She just about 10% of the way there anyway and we've only had one primary. She's the only one on the Michigan ballot so she will get that state completely without competition.

This is going to look alot like 1968 where McCarthy was the youth choice but old Humphrey got the party's nod.

Unless there is a serious setback on Super Tuesday, there is much ado about relatively unimportant primaries and caucuses.

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Iowa and New Hampshire were important states for Hillary. If she loses in South Carolina, her prospects for a big sweep on Super Tuesday will be severely damaged. She can’t rely just on New York and California.

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here's the butt-end of the drudge story on Hillary quiting..
by their own indirect admission, CNN has been fudging the polls

[In its final poll before Iowa, CNN showed Clinton with a two-point lead over Obama. Editorial decisions were being made based on an understanding the Democratic primary race would be close, explained a network executive.]

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Please keep in mind that there is something BIGGER at work here for the Largely-gay Major Media types...

Hillary, QUEEN OF THE HOMOSEXUALS has been defeated by a homophobic black man, and the lametations are deafening...
They just don’t know how to handle it yet...

I’ve been visiting leftist websites all day, and the BIGGEST fact they are lementing is that the QUEEN OF THE HOMOSEXUALS has been defeated by a Homophobe...

It’s like it’s the end of life on Earth for them...

[MHT]

She can lose and still get additional delegates. Some states deal out their votes proportionally. Even for California, it is not winner take all. She is still ahead of Obama nationally for the nomination and these two states are relatively small potatoes compared to the rest of the country. Super Tuesday is make it or break it day for her, but she might pull it off. After tomorrow, the press is going to start looking more critically at Obama’s experience and some of his goofy foreign policy statements. Then, there’s always the dirt about selling drugs that a Clinton operative could reinsert into the debate.

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CNN already has some super-delegate estimates rolled up in their tally. It's not enough to overcome a rout over the next few weeks.

I agree that she might pull it off, but her 'inevitability' is in serious jeopardy, even with the proportional allocation rules. Obama has the momentum now. I hope he knocks her out of the race, pronto.

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Knocking her out is a double-edged sword. The mention of her name helps our fundraising. Furthermore, Obama would have the youth and independent and a larger minority vote. A scenario like 1968 when college kids loved McCarthy and Humphrey got the nomination might follow if Hillary got the nod over Obama. Kids get discouraged easily if their favorite isn’t on the ballot and they get convinced that the system in rigged, which, of course, in Hillary’s case, it would be.