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To: John123

Two points:

The South had good REASON to fire on Ft. Sumter.

There is nothing in the Constitution to PROHIBIT any state from leaving the Union whenever they wanted to.

(and STILL isn’t!)


39 posted on 12/28/2007 12:00:10 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: TexConfederate1861
>> There is nothing in the Constitution to PROHIBIT any state from leaving the Union whenever they wanted to. (and STILL isn’t!) <<

Except these little pesky sections here:

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Article I
Section 10.
NO State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Article VI
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwith-standing. The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

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After the original constitution, (the failed "Articles of Confederation") caused Shays Rebellion by allowing states to do whatever they wanted regardless of federal laws, the founding fathers adopted the Constitution making IT the Surpreme Law of the land, to ensure the union remained paramount (and STILL is!)

Every President from Zachary Taylor, to Andy Jackson, to Abraham Lincoln, has clearly stated that secession WITHOUT consent of Congress is illegal, and the Supreme Court has ruled so as well.

40 posted on 12/28/2007 3:02:02 PM PST by BillyBoy (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Ronald Reagan, he's the second coming of Stephen Douglas!)
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To: TexConfederate1861
The South had good REASON to fire on Ft. Sumter.

There is nothing in the Constitution to PROHIBIT any state from leaving the Union whenever they wanted to.

(and STILL isn’t!)

No they didn't. They objected to a "foreign post" in their illegal country.

What are you 12? Just because you don't like the government doesn't mean you can up and create your own country. If you do, expect a bloody fight.

Even Gandhi (one of the most peaceful and pacifist man in history) couldn't deal with the riots and hatred and split up Pakistan and India. And both of these countries are STILL not happy about that.

What the heck, we might as well give Louis Farrakhan his own country within America because the "black people" feel the system is letting them down... You do see my point right?

42 posted on 12/28/2007 3:32:53 PM PST by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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