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Ron Paul says Lincoln was wrong to fight the Civil War. Do you agree?
AOL Blog ^ | Dec 26th 2007 | DAVID KNOWLES

Posted on 12/26/2007 9:26:27 PM PST by stainlessbanner

Ron Paul appeared on "Meet the Press" over the weekend, and gave voice to a sentiment scarcely heard in American politics. He claimed that the Civil War was unnecessary, and that Lincoln "never should have gone to war" to stop slavery. A better approach would have been for the federal government to simply purchase freedom for all of the slaves in the country. Watch Ron Paul on Meet the Press [YouTube]:

Of course, such a program sounds more than a little strange coming from a man who is so mistrustful of government that he wants to abolish the Department of Education, the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Reserve, and the IRS. But what about the contention that Lincoln went to war to put an end to slavery?


TOPICS: History; Politics
KEYWORDS: civilwar; despotlincoln; dishonestabe; kkk; lincoln; lostcauser; northernaggression; paulwasright; ronpaul; truthercandidate; tyrantlincoln; wbts; yankeeaggression
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Poll results so-far

YES - 29% (states incl: AL, LA, AR, MS, SC, ND, SD, WY)
NO - 62%
Not sure - 9%

1 posted on 12/26/2007 9:26:29 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

...doesn’t Ron Paul have a space ship to catch ?.......is anyone listening to him ?


2 posted on 12/26/2007 9:30:08 PM PST by KTM rider ( SCOTUS '08 it's more than the oval office this time)
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To: stainlessbanner

ron paul is a moron.


3 posted on 12/26/2007 9:30:54 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: stainlessbanner

I want to abolish the Department of Education too. There was never any demonstration of need for it, unless you consider Jimmy Carter’s desire to pay back the teachers unions a legitimate “need.”


4 posted on 12/26/2007 9:31:25 PM PST by freespirited (Still a proud member of the Stupid Party. It beats the Evil Party any day of the week.)
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To: snuffy smiff; slow5poh; EdReform; TheZMan; Texas Mulerider; Oorang; freedomfiter2; ...

Ping


5 posted on 12/26/2007 9:31:44 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
But what about the contention that Lincoln went to war to put an end to slavery?



"I thought that guy there said
he was in favor of them respirations."

6 posted on 12/26/2007 9:32:20 PM PST by jdm
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To: stainlessbanner

Yeck, been to AOL twice today. Stupid and inaccurate poll.


7 posted on 12/26/2007 9:36:54 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Scrooge, my kind of guy.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Pandering to the South Carolina and Mississippi voters, it appears.


8 posted on 12/26/2007 9:38:56 PM PST by PAR35
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To: stainlessbanner

I tend to agree that Lincoln was dead wrong in fighting the WBTS... no matter his trumped-up excuses...


9 posted on 12/26/2007 9:39:37 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Well that ruins any hope he had of receiving endorsements from Jesses Jackson and Al Sharpton. :)


10 posted on 12/26/2007 9:41:07 PM PST by kalee
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To: stainlessbanner

War should have never been fought. Sanctions should have been given a chance...some resolutions too.


11 posted on 12/26/2007 9:42:29 PM PST by Professional
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To: stainlessbanner

"We ain't a blog, man!"

12 posted on 12/26/2007 9:43:17 PM PST by jdm
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To: stainlessbanner

I’ve held the position that Lincoln was wrong for 45 years - long before Ron Paul. I’ve always supported states rights though and the Constitution.


13 posted on 12/26/2007 9:43:54 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: stainlessbanner

Lincoln originally fought to preserve the Union. Originally, the slaves were not to be liberated. Someone doesn’t know their history.


14 posted on 12/26/2007 9:47:49 PM PST by chopperman
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To: stainlessbanner
He claimed that the Civil War was unnecessary, and that Lincoln "never should have gone to war" to stop slavery.

Ron Paul is dead wrong about that. The Civil War wasn't about freeing the slaves -- it was about keeping the Union together. And the South started the war by firing on Fort Sumter

About halfway through the Civil War -- Lincoln gave the Gettysburg address which called for the end to slavery...

15 posted on 12/26/2007 9:50:49 PM PST by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: stainlessbanner
Paul noted that every nation in Europe got rid of slavery without civil wars; kind of hard to argue with.

But the civil war was also about an issue just as big which was not avoidable, and that was the question of whether the US was going to be able to industrialize (which required tarrifs) or whether we were going to allow England to dump manufactured goods here and essentially continue using us as a colony.

16 posted on 12/26/2007 9:53:53 PM PST by damondonion
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To: stainlessbanner
Also, the Southern states succeeded because Lincoln was elected. Not because they were afraid Lincoln would free the slaves... but because Lincoln wanted to prevent any new states from having slaves. The Southern states were afraid that eventually, they would be outnumbered in the congress and then... slavery would be outlawed.

So saying Lincoln was wrong for starting the Civil War to free the slaves is ignorant of history.

17 posted on 12/26/2007 9:55:23 PM PST by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: stainlessbanner

A real poll would be much redder. (At least in the South).
Thanks for the ping. I voted earlier off of a link from SHN&V. Oh, what the Hell. Might as well vote again. LOL!
I agree with Paul on this 100%!


18 posted on 12/26/2007 10:48:49 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: stainlessbanner

he wants to abolish the Department of Education, the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Reserve, and the IRS.

Well, I don’t know about the war but I have to agree with him on the above.


19 posted on 12/26/2007 10:58:07 PM PST by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: BnBlFlag
A real poll would be much redder. (At least in the South).

I think a real poll would be much more in favor of Lincoln even in the South. People that believe that Lincoln was right in suppressing the attempted political power grab by the slaveowning class accept that belief as mere recognized historical common sense and will not be motivated to multiple votes or even one vote. On the other hand, the partisans of the Confederate cause will jump at the chance to join Paul and reverse the verdict of history.

20 posted on 12/27/2007 1:54:19 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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