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Fred Thompson Apologizes to Mike Huckabee
Fred File Fred 08.com Blog via Poligazette Blog ^ | December 14, 2007 | Karen Hanretty

Posted on 12/15/2007 2:52:38 PM PST by ellery

Well… not really:

In light of Mike Huckabee’s heartfelt apology to Mitt Romney for making reference to Romney’s religion in the New York Times Magazine, we at the Thompson Campaign would like to offer Huckabee our own heartfelt apologies for some references we’ve made about his record as Governor of Arkansas.

We apologize for pointing out that as Governor of Arkansas, Huckabee offered in-state tuition to illegal immigrants. That’s something he’d probably just as soon no one talk about.

We apologize for pointing out that in 2002 Huckabee wrote Pres. Bush a letter asking him to lift the Cuban embargo. It’s easy to see how Huckabee might have missed the finer points of a 40-year embargo. While he obviously knew enough about the embargo to ask that it be lifted, Huckabee clearly didn’t know enough to ask that it not be lifted. So for that, we’re sorry.

We apologize for telling reporters that a BA in Biblical Studies from Ouachita Baptist University doesn’t, in fact, make Huckabee more qualified to fight the war on terror than say…Fred Thompson.

Thompson’s campaign also apologized for pointing out that Huckabee imposed a 47% tax increase on Arkansans when he was Governor, which is something “[w]e notice he never points […] out to voters.”

This is a very smart move by Thompson’s campaign. Huckabee is the frontrunner in Iowa right now, but he’s got some serious weaknesses that his opponents could and should exploit. What you see now is that they’re not personally attacking him - there’s no need to do so - they’re simply pointing out, time and again, that Huckabee didn’t always implement policies that go well with the conservative base. They’re repeat this time and again until enough people believe that Huckabee probably isn’t the best choice.

It’s very effective: not if you do it once, but if you repeat it time and again.

Right after Huckabee made a huge mistake (asking irrelevant questions about the Mormon faith), Fred Thompson decides to make life even tougher for the former Governor of Arkansas. The question is whether this will help Thompson himself or whether this will help Romney. After all, if Huckabee doesn’t win Iowa, Romney will. And if Romney wins Iowa he’ll win Michigan, New Hampshire and possibly South Carolina as well.

On the other hand, Thompson may not want to win Iowa, but his attacks may help him win South Carolina - a state he has to win if he wants to win the nomination. In other words, Thompson attacking Huckabee could result in Romney winning the first couple of states, perhaps not Iowa, but then at least two other states, and Thompson winning in South Carolina. That would make it a two-men race, Rudy Giuliani not being one of them.

Meanwhile, it’s good to see Thompson being more active and aggressive. He did well during the last debate, and he continues to go after his opponents on the issues. If he keeps this hope, there’s still hope for his campaign.


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To: dotnetfellow

Truth-telling?


21 posted on 12/15/2007 4:33:19 PM PST by RockinRight (Fred Thompson spells gravitas B-A-L-L-S-O-F-S-T-E-E-L.)
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To: airborne

From a Hunter supporter, no less. Hunter knows all about how to win a Presidential campaign...

/sarc


22 posted on 12/15/2007 4:33:53 PM PST by RockinRight (Fred Thompson spells gravitas B-A-L-L-S-O-F-S-T-E-E-L.)
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To: sourcery

Fred will be on CBS Face The Nation with (Bob Schieffer) on Sunday (tomorrow). GO FRED! :)


23 posted on 12/15/2007 4:35:28 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Route66

2400+ ! woohoo!


24 posted on 12/15/2007 4:37:11 PM PST by sweet_diane (Merry Christmas!)
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To: RockinRight

Way to avoid the issue.

S.O.P

I like Fred, but some of his supporters aren’t doing him any favors.


25 posted on 12/15/2007 4:41:44 PM PST by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Route66

We did it! Thanks to all who will help push FRED over the top in Iowa and elsewhere. It is my Christmas wish that all of America will open their eyes to a man who will be a great leader for our Country.

Merry Christmas to you and yours and to all of FreeRepublic.


26 posted on 12/15/2007 4:55:06 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN GRANDMA FREEPER FredHEAD! The Hunt for a FRED November is on! Don't be fooled!)
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To: Digger
So I guess it’s Huckabee -Clinton 08
27 posted on 12/15/2007 4:59:40 PM PST by TWhiteBear
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To: seekthetruth
Now Fred has a worthy opponent. The CBS Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer could be a classic. My money is on the Dalton Gang and FDT.
28 posted on 12/15/2007 5:02:36 PM PST by TWhiteBear
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To: ellery

Was this supposed to be cute? Let me not apologize for reminding everyone about Thompson’s record on the First Amendment free speech clause. He voted to regulate speech via Campaign Finance Reform. Really, it doesn’t matter what else you think. If you haven’t got the right to argue your case before the public then representative government is dead.


29 posted on 12/15/2007 5:55:12 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: RockinRight

“Hunter knows all about how to win a Presidential campaign”

HE WON???? HOORAAAY!! He’ll be the best President ever!!

It’s not over yet, pal. Don’t count your chickens too soon!!


30 posted on 12/15/2007 5:57:34 PM PST by buckeye49 ( Duncan Hunter for President '08)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Was this supposed to be cute? Let me not apologize for reminding everyone about Thompson’s record on the First Amendment free speech clause. He voted to regulate speech via Campaign Finance Reform. Really, it doesn’t matter what else you think. If you haven’t got the right to argue your case before the public then representative government is dead.

Your reminder is selective. I'll remind you that all the candidates have voted for Campaign Finance Reform.

31 posted on 12/15/2007 6:35:31 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
No, some only voted for the second one which only made sure everyone played by the same dreadful rules. They were AGAINST CFR, but once passed, it had to be implemented fairly.

What Thompson did was argue for it from the start. He was very instrumental in getting it passed, right up there with McCain. In fact, Thompson is pretty much McCain without the temper. That beats Romney, but it sure doesn't make him a saint.

32 posted on 12/15/2007 6:45:35 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Your reminder is selective. I'll remind you that all the candidates have voted for Campaign Finance Reform.

No, some only voted for the second one which only made sure everyone played by the same dreadful rules. They were AGAINST CFR, but once passed, it had to be implemented fairly.

LOL! So it's okay to vote for the second unconstitutional bill and not the first one?

Voting for either unconstitutional bill is wrong.

Like I said they all supported Campaign Finance Reform.

33 posted on 12/15/2007 7:47:02 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I am so sick of having to post this....

*****

Oh, for heaven’s sake. Thompson is NOT a McCain clone. He’s his own man, as evidenced by his multiple holdout votes (99-1) in the senate on questions of states’ rights.

During the eight years that Thompson and McCain served together, they cast votes on 102 CQ-defined key votes and agreed on 83 of them - or 81.4 percent of the time. They disagreed 18.6% of the time, that’s pretty high considering that both are Republicans and both are considered relatively conservative. Just as an example from one year, among the instances in which Thompson and McCain differed were votes in 2002 to effectively extend a repeal of the estate tax beyond 2010, to authorize oil drilling in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, and to postpone tougher automobile fuel efficiency standards. Thompson voted “aye” and McCain voted “no” in all three cases.

*****

Ed Morrissey, posting on Captain’s Quarters:

“Thompson also had some significant issues with McCain’s policies. He supported the BCRA, but now says that campaign finance reform has done nothing to solve the problems it intended to address, and that a new approach is needed. Thompson supported the Bush tax cuts from the beginning. He also pushed back against some of McCain’s bipartisan efforts, such as on the “patients bill of rights”, on federalist grounds.

In the end, though, the biggest difference is trust. The base simply does not trust John McCain, not after the BCRA, the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill, and especially not after the Gang of 14. No amount of banging on podiums about the war will repair that damage in the primaries. With Thompson, the base gets the best parts of the McCain platform, with a healthy dose of federalism and lower taxes, and some measure of reliability. As much as the [Washington] Post wants to tie them together, Fred and John are quite different — and the GOP base understands that.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/009894.php

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Thought Mesh blog puts it more succinctly:

“But even my passing glance is enough to see some very substantial differences [Thompson has] from McCain.”

http://blog.thought-mesh.net/archives/2007/05/its_always_the_beam_in_o.php

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Fred Thomson, in a recent Orange County Register interview:

“A Republican, especially a conservative Republican - you’re going to have a large group of people you line up with on most votes. John and I certainly fit that category. But we have different views on some issues. We’ll have a good discussion about it. But John is my friend and will remain my friend, regardless of what we do.”

http://blogs.ocregister.com/buzz/2007/05/oneonone_with_fred_thomspon.html

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Some key SenateMatch responses for Fred Thompson and John McCain:

“Abortion is a woman’s right”
Fred: Strongly Opposes (voted to ban partial-birth abortion)
McCain: Opposes (voted to allow partial-birth abortion)

“Sexual orientation protected by civil rights laws”
Fred: Strongly Opposes
McCain: Favors

“More federal funding for health coverage”
Fred: Opposes
McCain: Favors

“Replace coal & oil with alternatives”
Fred: Opposes (Voted to preserve budget for ANWR oil drilling)
McCain: Favors (Voted to kill budget for ANWR oil drilling

“Allow churches to provide welfare services”
Fred: Favors
McCain: Opposes

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Fred_Thompson.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/John_McCain_VoteMatch.htm

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Below is a list of campaign finance “reform” votes where Thompson’s and McCain’s votes differed. Most significantly, Thompson introduced an amendment that would increase hard money contribution limits. McCain voted to kill discussion of Thompson’s amendment, but Thompson prevailed, and the amendment passed (with McCain ultimately voting for it). In the discussion of this amendment, Thompson specifically noted that individual contributions are free speech.

CFR related items where Thompson departed from McCain:
March 19, 2001 - April 2, 2001
Votes 00037-00064

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_107_1.htm
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00037
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00038
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00046
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00047
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00049
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00053 (this was Thompson’s amendment to increase hard money contributions - McCain voted to kill it)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r107:1:./temp/~r107Kv5YyZ:e0 (here is the discussion)
:http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00054
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00055 (this is the final vote on Thompson’s successful amendment to increase hard money limits. McCain ended up supporting it, although he tried to kill it)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00056

Hat tip to ellery!


34 posted on 12/15/2007 8:08:41 PM PST by Politicalmom (Huckabee is the GOP's Jimmy Carter. Are you ready for Huck the Schmuck to plunder your pocketbook?)
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To: nhoward14; dotnetfellow
Who’s your candidate?
I would not expect a reply.

Look at his posting history.

He is a Huckabee fan.
35 posted on 12/15/2007 9:25:25 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: dotnetfellow
The FH’s have built their campain on this kind of snarky pablum.

Another reason Fred has no chance of winning.


I guess Ignorance is bliss.

Try paying attention, Fred is all about the issues!

The only real difference between your candidate (The Huckster) and Fred, is that Fred is conservative on the issues and has a much more conservative history.

The Huckster, on the other hand, can claim past conservative positions and history on only three issues:

1. Abortion
2. Guns
3. Gays


On these issues he is liberal:

1. Spending
2. Taxes
3. Global Warming
4. Illegal Aliens
5. Law and Order Issues
36 posted on 12/15/2007 9:29:32 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; Politicalmom
Care to admit you were wrong?

Or are you just going to ignore what PoliticalMom wrote and repost the same drivel in the future?
37 posted on 12/15/2007 9:33:33 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: GOPyouth

That’s awesome!


38 posted on 12/15/2007 9:42:02 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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