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The death of the religious right
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58827 ^

Posted on 11/23/2007 12:09:04 AM PST by dit_xi

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Because of the 300 words limit on excerpt, I want to add a short paragraph that's also in the article:

"While in the long term, some moderate Republicans might welcome relief from having to genuflect in front of the pro-life movement and Terri Schiavo, the short-term political impact for the Republican Party is a disaster. Christian conservatives probably won't vote for a Democrat. They're more likely just to stay home. But the result is the same: Overnight, Republicans have lost their biggest and most loyal bloc of support."

Those who subscribe to the myth that Christian Conservatives are tunnel-visioned, limitting our core issues only to abortion, same-sex marriage, school prayers, and embryonic stem cell research have obviously underestimated our fervor. There isn't a single Christian Conservative out there who isn't also concerned about threats on gun rights, illegal immigration, border security, WOT, Iraq, Iran, health care, lower taxes, less gov't. interference, etc... Bottom line, Christian Conservatives are just as fiscally conservative in our beliefs as anyone in the GOP. Pat Robertson may have prostituted himself and compromised his Christian values, but the majority of Christian Conservative votes are still out there to be earned by the candidates. How else would you explain the Mike cHuckabee phenomenon in Iowa? I would characterize the Christian Conservative votes in this election thus far as "the lost flock", whereby many of the disillusioned Christian Conservatives are running to cHuckabee because they're eager for a shepherd, whilst the majority are still holding our prayers and awaiting a GOP savior. Let's get to the truth, cHuckabee is a pro-life liberal who hasn't seen a tax increase he doesn't like and is for amnesty. Even as his polls number surge, cHuckabee has no chance because he doesn't have the full support of the Christian Conservatives.

I shall not hijack my own thread (if that's even possible) as I've been fingered out with the last one ;-o. But just let me sneak it in that I earnestly believe Duncan Hunter is the only candidate out there who meets all the qualities and criterias the Christian Conservatives are yearning for.

1 posted on 11/23/2007 12:09:05 AM PST by dit_xi
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To: lakey; pissant; thelastinkling; indylindy; DakotaRed; familyop; ProCivitas; calcowgirl; AuntB; ...

The liberals, RINO’s and Ted Kennedy wing of the Republican Party want us to believe that the Christian Conservative movement is dead. They’re the ones who are dead wrong! Christian Conservatives are still out there yearning for a GOP savior and true conservative. They just havent’ heard about Duncan Hunter yet. Let’s get out there and tell them that Mike cHuckabee is a false prophet!


2 posted on 11/23/2007 12:23:12 AM PST by dit_xi (Duncan Hunter: No nose holding necessary come election day. Right on every issue, right every time)
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To: dit_xi

I haven’t made my mind up yet, but why is Huckabee a false prophet??!!..seems like a good conservative Christian to me.


3 posted on 11/23/2007 12:28:57 AM PST by PROCON
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To: dit_xi
"But just let me sneak it in that I earnestly believe Duncan Hunter is the only candidate out there who meets all the qualities and criterias the Christian Conservatives are yearning for.

Congressman Duncan Hunter is stuck at 1% in those polls that even have him listed. I see Mr. Hunter and Mr. Tancredo dropping out soon. Who will you support then?

4 posted on 11/23/2007 12:35:30 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: PROCON

Glad you asked:

Mike Huckabee disses Americans, Mexicans, promotes illegal immigration
http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/005609.html

Christians Need To Beware Of Mike Huckabee
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071102.html

While Gov. of Arkansas, Huckabee was AGAINST proving citizenship in
order to register to vote. He called those who were in favor of this
“racists”..
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050218/news_lz1e18perkins.html

Huckabee fought hard to kill an Arkansas bill which would have cut off
social services for illegal aliens. Huckabee called the bill,
“anti-Christian” and “un-American”...
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/01/28/News/316347.html

Huckabee supported in-state tuition for illegal aliens...
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/03/11/News/318458.html

Huckabee’s opposition to the illegal aliens bill:
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000718.html


5 posted on 11/23/2007 12:36:34 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: dit_xi

the rise of good works only apostates


6 posted on 11/23/2007 12:37:00 AM PST by wardaddy (This country is being destroyed by folks who could have never created it.)
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To: PROCON

You should really study post 5...Huckster is borderline evil


7 posted on 11/23/2007 12:37:44 AM PST by wardaddy (This country is being destroyed by folks who could have never created it.)
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To: dit_xi

We all love Hunter and Tancredo but it’s 45 days from Iowa and they are dead in the water......worthy or not

My list:

Thompson....not perfect granted...needs to really push and get aggressive

Romney.....second best...probably a decent man

McCain....slightly less PC than Rudy...but unstable

Last....Rudy....oh well....Nelson Rockefeller with more attitude and the same sex drive

the rest....are outta the race

I would vote for Rudy over Huckabee but they both suck


8 posted on 11/23/2007 12:41:39 AM PST by wardaddy (This country is being destroyed by folks who could have never created it.)
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To: dit_xi
I become very skeptical to anything ‘the death of...’ especially when it comes to ideas and politics. In the heyday of socialism and Keynesianism in the 1960s people thought conservatism was dead. Many of us also thought communism was dead. In fact, only about 2 years ago some people dared to make a prediction about ‘permanent Republican majority’.... Ideas and politics come and go, sometimes with different forms and labels...
9 posted on 11/23/2007 12:43:55 AM PST by paudio
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To: dit_xi

I am not sure Huckabee is a false prophet. He believes what he believes but he is switching gears now just like the rest of them. I would vote for Bush over Huckabee if Bush could run again. But then I would vote for Bush over any in the top-tier. I think people are missing what we are trying to do here. We are trying to get a conservative elected, that will be a better President than Bush.

But what everyone seems to be trying to do is find a candidate who can beat Hillary. Yet, in most of the polls, which everyone seems to takes such great stock in; Hillary is beating them all and in many cases so is Obama. So that argument is a non-starter. I find Hillary very vulnerable and if we nominate a candidate that the base will get out and vote for, Hillary is toast. I just don’t see that in the top-tier. So you’re right we need to get Hunters name out there for public consumption.


10 posted on 11/23/2007 1:15:47 AM PST by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter, the real deal, the only deal for Conservative Americans)
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To: dit_xi

wnd blames it on the electorate, not on the ones running to be elected.


11 posted on 11/23/2007 2:40:16 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: PROCON

Look what he did to the republican party of arkansas.He seems to be a pro-life liberal.


12 posted on 11/23/2007 4:33:09 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: dit_xi

bttt Duncan Hunter


13 posted on 11/23/2007 4:41:50 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: dit_xi

The reason Huckabee is rising in the polls is because he is a totally manufactured phenomenem by the media. At first, he was languishing down in the second tier and Rudy was touting his strategy of not needing the religious right’s votes because he was going to win with the moderates & cross-over dems.

THEN - it became obvious that Rudy’s people did some internal polling and figured out - THEY COULDN’T win without the support of the right - so they started courting those votes & getting Pat Robertson’s endorsement.

Here’s where Huckabee comes in - the powers that be - the ones that want Rudy to be our nominee - have decided that Huckabee is the moderate that can be packaged to appeal to the religious right. He’s a pastor, etc. That’s when they started to showcase him and do polling that skews in his favor to show him rising in the polls. They started increasing stories about him & how he is such a religious man,...blah, blah, blah......

The whole plan culminates when Rudy picks Huckabee to be his VP running mate & therefore clinches the support of the religious right.

It is completely manufactured & I will not fall for it! I know several good church-going Christians that have fallen for it & are supporting Huckabee. When I point out his support for illegals, nanny-state policies and love for taxation - they look at me like a deer in the headlights. They are not hearing this stuff on the media.

The plan is completely evil & I have already decided that if the ticket is Giuliani/Huckabee - I will be leaving the Republican Party for good.


14 posted on 11/23/2007 5:34:30 AM PST by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter needs to be our next Sec. of Defense, Dir. of Homeland Security - or Vice President!)
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To: dit_xi
..I think people are mixing up the so-called "leaders" of the movement with the average religious-right voter across the country.

Just because the big names are infected with Hillary Fear, that by no means is an indicator how most faith \values voters will go.

Tony Perkins' recent article tells me that FRC and Dr. Dobson may be the only group left which is not stricken with insanity...

15 posted on 11/23/2007 7:40:25 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: dit_xi

We don’t have to excerpt WND, do we?

Regardless, Bill Press is a leftwing lunatic.


16 posted on 11/23/2007 8:27:57 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, thanks for the info, you really opened my eyes..

Well, anybody but her thighness. Your leaning towards whom?


17 posted on 11/23/2007 8:42:46 AM PST by PROCON
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To: wardaddy

Thanks FRiend,

This is why FR is such a good place to exchange ideas, 2ndDivisionVet opened my eyes.

It looks like Huckabee is a big time hypocrite.

FReegards


18 posted on 11/23/2007 8:45:53 AM PST by PROCON
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To: imahawk

I studied post # 5, changed my mind about him completely.

That’s what I like best about FR, you folks are really informed!!

FReegards


19 posted on 11/23/2007 8:48:10 AM PST by PROCON
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for the links...I passed them along!


20 posted on 11/23/2007 8:52:08 AM PST by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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