Jews for Ron Paul exposed as a fraud (Led by a gay pagan unitarian)

Israel Forum.com ^ | 11-15-07 | Sultan Knish

[AndrewWalden]

Ron Paul, the Anti-Republican candidate for President and a favorite of White Supremacists like David Duke, has unveiled a new defense strategy to counter charges of Anti-semitism. The campaign of the candidate who claims to disdain ethnic collectivism now boasts an organization called "Jews for Ron Paul."

If Jews for Ron Paul puts you in mind of Jews for Jesus, you're not far wrong. Because Jews for Ron Paul is a scam.

Jim C. Perry, the Executive Director of Jews for Ron Paul and heavily featured as the spokesman for the front group. Like many Jews for Jesus figures, Jim C. Perry claims to be an Orthodox Jew. The JTA article featured many of Perry's grandiose claims.

For Perry, an Orthodox Jew, there is a connection between his own religious beliefs about personal responsibility and the Libertarian philosophy underpinning Paul's candidacy.

"It's the idea that people are meant to be equal and free in a just society. Those are the same things that draw me to be an observant Orthodox Jew," said Perry. "I believe Judaism puts strong emphasis on individual meaning, personal responsibility," he said, adding that God "calls us to take responsibility for our own actions.".

Here I am a kipah-wearing, fringes-hanging Orthodox Jew...

The real Jim C. Perry though is not an Orthodox Jew, though he makes a point of dressing up like one until he's virtually a cartoon. He's gay and a self-identified Churchgoing Unitarian Universalist. Here he identifies himself as a Seminarian. He has another account where he calls himself Reverend Jim C. Perry H.P., M.D.A. (he also claimed to have a doctorate in English which he apparently modestly left off here all at the tender age of 22) and a Pagan Minister. Briefly he appears to have gone Ward Churchill and began calling himself Jim FlyingEagle. (He may have also used James L. Rush and posted at Cherokee Pride as James L. Rushing River pretending to be Cherokee)

Now Jim C. Perry, Gay Pagan Unitarian Minister (possibly also Cherokee and Mormon), thanks to a few photos in costume, is being passed off as an Orthodox Jew. A clear and unambiguous lie. Like everything else in the Ron Paul campaign, Jim C. Perry and Jews for Ron Paul is a lie.

Under the user name XSOIDEI, Jim C. Perry has posted at pagan sites as "Pagan GOP"

GOP NOT KKK

by Pagan GOP (Concord, NH)

I am quite offended by the person who the comment that the KKK and GOP are one and the same. I am a PROUD Republican and Pagan. I was hurt by your comments.

No, I do not support the War in Iraq, no Republican in his right mind would! Bob Barr, Ron Paul and Orrin Hatch, all GOPer in Congress were OPPOSED to the War!

I am very Liberty Minded.

Xsoidei

Since universal unitarians are actually compatible with paganism this may not be a contradiction or it may be another case of Ron Paul supporters pretending to be members of various groups to rally support for him. There are signs of this with Jim C. Perry because he also appears to have been joining Mormon groups. Jim C. Perry or "Yaakov Perry" as he calls himself on the phony Yahoo Jews for Ron Paul group has penned announcements on behalf of "Jews for Paul" shilling for Ron Paul on Digg under YaakovPerry. There he has claimed to be Chabad, but here he claimed to be gay and a quaker.

Perry, who is gay, said he wants to help Democratic lawmakers protect and extend civil liberties in New Hampshire. Perry's marriage is recognized by his Quaker faith but not New Hampshire law.

He appears to run New England Flags and to be married to a man named Armen. If you're getting bored of this the sum total is that Jim C. Perry is a lot of things, including compulsive liar. He is not an Orthodox Jew. Jews for Ron Paul which he runs is a scam.

When I first wrote about Ron Paul, I noticed a burst of comments from people claiming to be Jewish and Ron Paul supporters. I suspected that most of them were fake, probably at least one of them was really Jim C. Perry who moonlights as a Jewish Ron Paul supporter, when he's not being a Pagan Ron Paul supporter, a Cherokee or a Unitarian Universalist. The JTA story on the Ron Paul campaign and Jim C. Perry or Yakov Perry needs to be changed to reflect the fact that he is not an Orthodox Jew.

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[Mr. Silverback]

Now how would that paragraph of yours sound if someone had written that about Judaism instead of Unitarianism?

Hmmm...Well, let's see how you do here when we review all the facts. You see, in post 89, you said "I like how people here are accusing Ron Paul of antisemitism, but in the same breath mock the Unitarian Church and gays", emphasis mine. But then, when I said "Nobody has said anything in this thread that is hateful against Unitarians and gays," you responded by chopping off part of my quote, because you didn't find anything against gays in this thread, did you? And you also didn't find me accusing Ron Paul of being anti-Semitic, but you plowed on ahead anyway.

Playing games with evidence and shoehorning it into an assertion it doesn't support: Strike one.

Now, before I move on, let me pause to answer your question. Let's see that again, just for clarity:

Now how would that paragraph of yours sound if someone had written that about Judaism instead of Unitarianism?

Well, it would sound just fine, if Jews--like Unitarians--were members of a "religion" that includes everybody from atheists to pagans, had a bloated sense of moral superiority (trust me, I know this to be true and can elaborate if it will help truth get through your skull) and far out left politics. For you see, every one of those things is true about UU's and none of them are true about Jews. One can't accurately describe a group's actions and be guilty of hate speech. Were I describing Jews, my paragraph would have mentioned gathering to worship and learn about the laws of the Torah.

Strike Two: False accusations of bigotry.

Ouch, looks like you're not doing so well.

Now, didn't I use the word "hateful?" Well, I have to ask, how much of a PC wuss are you if the stuff I wrote in that paragraph is hateful in your world? Do you cry when someone suggests you part your hair differently, or when they tell you your shoe is untied? If someone mentions that there are a lot of Black players in the NBA, do you berate them for their hatred, or just call the cops first?

Wussy male bovine fecal matter: Strike three.

You're out, Bozo. Take your games back to MiniSilEx HQ; the rats need their cage to be cleaned.

[Mr. Silverback]

So the question I raised is perfectly reasonable.

What's silly is not that the guy could ethnically be a Jew, but that you guys have a gay, pagan, Democrat con man in charge of your organization and the best you can come up with is "He could still be a Jew!"

MiniSilEx rides again.

[Mr. Silverback]

I've got that beat, I think. ;)

Good Lord, I think you might.

[George W. Bush]

What's silly is not that the guy could ethnically be a Jew, but that you guys have a gay, pagan, Democrat con man in charge of your organization and the best you can come up with is "He could still be a Jew!"

I thought I was saying I'm not sure I'd believe he's a Jew unless I know his mother's status and whether he's circumcised.

As to whether he flits around from Dim to Libertarian to Republican, I could care less.

There really is very little indication that there is any real organization called Jews For Ron Paul. Maybe there is. But the most famous one is dead (an old friend of Ron Paul who RP eulogized). And they don't seem to hold meetings or issue statements.

I think this guy is a con man. Or a joker. In any event, he and the few who might actually support RP are a small subset, probably under 20%, of the incredibly small number of Jewish Republicans in key early states. So they amount to 20% of just about nothing in determining the nominee. Jewish Republicans do not contribute to the GOP in anywhere close to the massive funding the Dims get from Jewish donors which is 3-4 times the donor support one would expect from their numbers. Either the Jewish Republicans don't have as much money or they don't spend it on politics, it seems.

[Age of Reason]

if Jews--like Unitarians--were members of a "religion" that includes everybody from atheists to pagans

So it's better to exclude people who are not good enough for you?

Oh no, we're not bigoted, are we?

You're out, Bozo

And rude, too.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

What is coming “unglued” is RP’s campaign.

ROFL! He's already raised $8.6 million so far, he's going to end the 4Q with over $20 million. Get real and blow it out your ear.

[Mr. Silverback]

So it's better to exclude people who are not good enough for you? Oh no, we're not bigoted, are we?

Hmmm...no surprise that you're short on logic.

First, the point of mentioning that they accept everyone from atheists to pagans is not to say that I (or anyone else) is better than those atheists and pagans, it is to say that a "religion" that includes people who believe in no God, one God and many gods is not a religion, but a loose affiliation based on some other commonality.

To use your logic, the Green Bay Packers should fill their backfield with girl scouts, dwarves and octogenarians. Otherwise they're excluding people who aren't good enough for them.

And rude, too.

Perhaps I would be nicer to you if you weren't busying yourself accusing me and other Freepers of bigotry, gaybashing and slander which never occurred. The lady doth protest too much.

[Mr. Silverback]

Hey, take a look at post 118 and the subsequent conversation. Some poor dimwit thinks I’ve loosed hate speech on the world.

[Mr. Silverback]

ROFL! He's already raised $8.6 million so far, he's going to end the 4Q with over $20 million. Get real and blow it out your ear.

Michael Jackson has a lot of money, too. Do you think he'll be elected President soon?

[Captain Kirk]

If you don’t care, why do you bother to post? Why not just ignore Paul? BTW, he’s now up to eight percent in New Hampshire and leading Fred Thompson there.

[Mr. Silverback]

If you don’t care, why do you bother to post? Why not just ignore Paul?

Two reasons:

1. It's fun poking you all with a stick. Plus, I may be able to write a doctoral thesis on abnormal psychology some day.

2. Just because the guy has no chance doesn't mean I'm going to sit by and let a traitor be promoted on FR as some sort of Conservative god.

BTW, he’s now up to eight percent in New Hampshire and leading Fred Thompson there.

Well, now I'm really scared. After all, there's no way the other 7 GOP hopefuls could ever beat a guy who blames 9/11 on us, wants to pull money from the troops while they're in combat, is a hypocrite of Clintonian proportions, is Alex Jones' homeboy and a favorite of neo-Nazis. I mean, there aren't any weaknesses for them to exploit...

[rmlew]

David Greenfield is no neoconservative, unless you think that Jew equals neocon. Go do some research.

[jd777]

You a perry man (wink wink) or a. Romney bot?

[jd777]

This is 4 years later! Hows david greenfield doing? Go ron paul 2012!

[rmlew]

Sorry, followed a link and didn't notice the date.
Greenfield has his own blog, Sultanknish.blogspot.com and is carried by rightside news and Frontpagemag.com

[Mr. Silverback]

Hmmmm...trolling in a four year old thread, huh?

Still supporting the candidate who is the favorite of neo-Nazis and anti-American lefties? Still pretending that a guy who thinks Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be deterred by an American nuclear missile has a handle on foreign policy? Still supporting the guy who says he may make a run as an independent and guarantee us a Barack Obama presidency?

Aw, that’s cute!

I have not committed to a candidate yet (one of the perks of being an Illinoisan) but I am leaning toward Cain and will support the most conservative person still in the running when it’s my turn to vote. The insane congresscritter from Texas is not a conservative and will not receive my support.

I stand with JimRob:

“Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!” — Jim Robinson, 09/30/07

[Mr. Silverback]

BTW, I really, really enjoy the idea of knowing that you are so full of yourself and/or dumb that you think the only reason someone would reject your spaceshot AlexJones buddy candidate is if they’re a Romney supporter or an amenstry-booster. Real brain power there.

[jd777]

Its the war right? Thats the only thing that really upsets you. Paul is the only one who wants to end this decade long war. And that makes you mad. Just a guess.

[Mr. Silverback]

As a veteran I can’t say I have any regard for the congresscritter’s moronic views on jihadism, his hypocriticalposturing on the Iraq War (compare the 2001 authorization to the 2002 authorization and tellme why one is constitutional and the other isn’t) or his plan in 2008 to cut funding for the troops while they were in combat. However, the thing that irks me about your messiah is that he’s just another Washington game player. He just plays to an even more gullible audience than the usual career pol.

[Mr. Silverback]

As a veteran I can’t say I have any regard for the congresscritter’s moronic views on jihadism, his hypocriticalposturing on the Iraq War (compare the 2001 authorization to the 2002 authorization and tellme why one is constitutional and the other isn’t) or his plan in 2008 to cut funding for the troops while they were in combat. However, the thing that irks me about your messiah is that he’s just another Washington game player. He just plays to an even more gullible audience than the usual career pol.