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Are Our Second Amendment Rights Hanging On A Comma?
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| November 10, 2007
Posted on 11/10/2007 11:25:50 AM PST by theothercheek
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To: theothercheek
Our rights are God-given and implanted within us. They're not dependent on the placement of a comma for their existence.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:28:31 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
Tell that to gun control advocates.
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:30:13 AM PST
by
theothercheek
("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
To: theothercheek
What part of “...shall not be infringed.” do they not understand?
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:33:03 AM PST
by
tsomer
To: theothercheek
The term
a well regulated militia being necessary... is what is known as a present participle and does not modify the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Either both parties have not mentioned it to the 2nd circuit or the 2nd circuit ignored the argument.
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:33:42 AM PST
by
Stepan12
( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
To: theothercheek
Many people are vulnerable to physical force; a gun in the hands of a responsible citizen is the equalizer.
To: goldstategop
I learned the hard way that our rights are enumerated — not granted.
Some stranger corrected me on the usage in public.
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:34:54 AM PST
by
Stepan12
( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
To: theothercheek
I always thought the comma’s in the Second Amendment, meant AND
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:36:00 AM PST
by
tiger-one
(The night has a thousand eyes)
To: theothercheek
A better question might be what does "the people" mean. If you are talking about any other part of the Bill of Rights that has been taken to mean an individual right.
Only in the Second Amendment, when interpreted by gun grabbers, does "the people" refer to some collective right.
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:36:16 AM PST
by
USNBandit
(sarcasm engaged at all times)
To: theothercheek
While pin heads on the Liberal side argue if a comma means that I have the right to bear arms, I have a large caliber punctuation maker they can collect.
This is what we get if we follow the road of a “living, breathing Constitution:....because when they rip one part of it out, they will rip it all apart...IF we let them.
Meadow Muffin
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:36:43 AM PST
by
rwgal
To: Stepan12
The Bill Of Rights just lists a few of them. Its taken for granted our rights don't come from the hand of the state. Today's Democratic Party no longer believes in individual rights. Its updated version is a collectivist set of rights given to you by power hungry and unprincipled politicians.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:37:01 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: theothercheek
There are only 2 ways to look at it:
1 The right to bear arms depends on the militia;
2 The militia depends on the right to bear arms.
How can any literate person read 2A and not see which one is the correct reading?
That said, I’m sure sorry they phrased it that way, but how could they know that 200 years of progress would make so many fools?
To: theothercheek
Are Our Second Amendment Rights Hanging On A Comma?Wrong question. "Are Constitutional limitations preventing government from violating our right to self-defense hanging on a comma?"
Government has no power to give rights and no authority to take them. When that principle is overthrown our Constitution has been overthrown. At that point I will still be a sovereign individual and the government will be an outlaw.
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:38:01 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(I'm voting for Duncan Hunter. Nominee or not.)
To: theothercheek
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:38:18 AM PST
by
beltfed308
(Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
To: theothercheek
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
“A Box of Jelly Donuts, being necessary to feed Elvis, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
It means exactly the same thing reguardless of the reason the founders gave for putting it in.
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:40:08 AM PST
by
Beagle8U
(FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
To: theothercheek
Wonder what would happen if it went the way of Prohibition? Black market guns, right? The value of which would increase a thousand fold ... BTW, read where there are 99 guns per 100 population ... try taking them ....
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:40:51 AM PST
by
SkyDancer
("There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress - Mark Twain")
To: theothercheek
I think they should forget the commas and look for 'original intent'.
The slightest bit of reading of the Founders' contemporaneous statements on bearing arms would instantly disabuse folks of any thought that they only envisioned the 2nd as a collective right.
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:42:02 AM PST
by
Bob
To: Stepan12
Yes, and the commas are there because it’s extra information, not the core of the sentence.
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:42:35 AM PST
by
VanShuyten
("Believe me or not, his intelligence was perfectly clear...But his soul was mad.")
To: VanShuyten
Who would have thought when they wrote the Bill of Rights, that we were going to leave it up to an English teacher to interpret it..?
Meadow Muffin
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:45:31 AM PST
by
rwgal
To: theothercheek
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posted on
11/10/2007 11:48:30 AM PST
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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