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THE WGA STRIKE OF 2007 IS A FARCE. MARXISM REPEATS ITSELF 18 YEARS AFTER THE COLD WAR ENDS.
November 10, 2007 | beachcomber

Posted on 11/10/2007 10:19:50 AM PST by Beachcomber

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To: Beachcomber
Picture this: Here you have the spectacle of millionaire screenwriters parading around in a circle outside the studios run by millionare executives.

Hollywood's millionaire writers -- the ones who didn't make their money as actors, directors or producers -- could hold their convention in a minivan.

21 posted on 11/10/2007 11:13:25 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError
You've made an error.

Most of the Marxian cadre calling the shots of this strike have a net worth in excess of a million dollars, but it's impolite to discuss these facts in an open forum, isn't it?

Any researcher can check out the names for themselves, but remember...we're never supposed to "name names", and I adhere to that admonition.

Can you say "Copyright: ? ? ?

22 posted on 11/10/2007 11:30:14 AM PST by Beachcomber
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To: papasmurf

Thanks for the “clean up” on aisle 11.


23 posted on 11/10/2007 11:31:17 AM PST by Beachcomber
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To: Deb; Sun; bill1952; karnage; nycgal; DakotaRed; Argus; abb; felisberto

FYI


24 posted on 11/10/2007 11:37:25 AM PST by Beachcomber
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To: Beachcomber; Pete98; Nik Naym; LdSentinal; bray; goldstategop; papasmurf; racing fan
First of all. Paragraphs are our friends.

Second:NO ONE CARES!!!

The Corporate Suits of the Hollywood Studios' Parent Compnaies could care less if their writers go on strike. The profit from Hollywood hasn't been all that much to write home about, once the old Hollywood System allowed itself to be bought out to the likes of GE and Sony.

The Hollywood Studio suits are always eager to opt out for more "Reality Based" television series that requires no writing, which is why they were purchased in the first place.

The writers for films are all fully indocrinated to the liberal, PC mindset long before they reach for a pen or sit behind a keyboard. As the slumping numbers for ticket sales for their product has shown for the last decade.

Especially with the latest trend for Hollywood "Movies With A Message" ("The Kingdom", ""The Valley Of Elah", "Lions For Lambs" and the up-coming Brian DePalma turd-in-a-punchbowl, "Rendition") that are breaking records for not being seen.

Let the strike cause the "Domino Effect" downfall of Hollywood. Chances are very good that no one will notice.


Jack.
25 posted on 11/10/2007 11:38:33 AM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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To: Jack Deth
I understand (now) about paragraphs.

Obviously I am not a writer, as racing dan pointed out.

And "NOBODY CARES" except the thousands of people thrown out of work, innocent bystanders, all of them.

But, thanks, anyway.

26 posted on 11/10/2007 11:43:54 AM PST by Beachcomber
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To: Beachcomber
You're welcome, I hope I did more good than harm to it.
I know this isn't your point of posting, but I just have to say it :)

Sadly, I am on the fence with the strike. I grew up in La La, and even had a job at the old DesiLu/Zanra Studios as a young teen. I knew many actors and writers, some even, who have gone on to fame. For them, I don't worry. For the many employees, who have family's to support, and aren't even on the creative side, I worry and Pray for. Hollywood is writing it's own obituary, IMO, by allowing it's creative talent to go ballistic for the looney left. It used to be that the entertainment from Hollywood brought us together. Now, everything from cartoons to children's day time to soaps, serials, serious drama, etc. is \left\ slanted now. No wonder everything is falling apart. Divisive politics should not be a part of the entertainment industry. Methinks they've loosed a Hollywood created monster, and no one can yell...CUT!
27 posted on 11/10/2007 12:05:23 PM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt - get install FRed Thompson)
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To: Beachcomber
Hey, my HTML was stripped out. Huh???

You're welcome, I hope I did more good than harm to it.

I know this isn't your point of posting, but I just have to say it :)

Sadly, I am on the fence with the strike. I grew up in La La, and even had a job at the old DesiLu/Zanra Studios as a young teen. I knew many actors and writers, some even, who have gone on to fame. For them, I don't worry. For the many employees, who have family's to support, and aren't even on the creative side, I worry and Pray for.

Hollywood is writing it's own obituary, IMO, by allowing it's creative talent to go ballistic for the looney left.

It used to be that the entertainment from Hollywood brought us together. Now, everything from cartoons to children's day time to soaps, serials, serious drama, etc. is \left\ slanted now. No wonder everything is falling apart.

Divisive politics should not be a part of the entertainment industry.

Methinks they've loosed a Hollywood created monster, and no one can yell...CUT!
28 posted on 11/10/2007 12:08:22 PM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt - get install FRed Thompson)
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To: napscoordinator
I know that soap operas will go to repeats next week and they are in most trouble according to reports.

That's inaccurate. Soaps are taped weeks in advance. New episodes will be airing until around January.

29 posted on 11/10/2007 12:10:44 PM PST by Sandy
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To: racing fan

Bush is Dumb. Bush is evil. The War is Illegal. Christians are evil. Homosexuals are saints. Blacks are saints. Drug addicts are saints. Hookers are saints. There, I just wrote 6 mos of SoddomWood scripts.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops


30 posted on 11/10/2007 12:46:38 PM PST by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: bray
bray,

What you just described perfectly matched what Michael Medved wrote in his book Hollywood vs. America. And you wonder why the less political the movie, the more popular it becomes with American audiences.

Also, a little dose of patriotism in the movie every now and then won't hurt, either. Remember how Superman Returns lost part of its audience when the writers refused to use the phrase "Truth, Justice and the American Way" in full? Or how in the first Spider-Man movie the last scene in the movie (you have to see for yourself) made everyone stand up and cheer?

31 posted on 11/10/2007 12:57:31 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: Beachcomber

ping


32 posted on 11/10/2007 2:21:29 PM PST by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: Beachcomber

I have been a member of the Writers Guild for 26 years. I am not a Marxian slave. The issue of copyright has been discussed many times over the years. It has been difficult to get the writers united behind it, because the studios will never give it up. Politics is always the art of the possible. It is more than possible, it is probable that we will get a reasonable deal that specifies residuals for the new wave of distribution methods. Copyright will return as an issue in the future, but it will be a tough nut to crack.


33 posted on 11/11/2007 1:14:19 AM PST by karnage
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To: Beachcomber

I’ve been a member of the WGA for 29 years. I’m not a Marxian slave either. I’m a Freeper, for Gawd’s sake. It’s not ideology. There’s no left or Marxism in it whatsoever. It’s a business negotiation. It’s the free market. We have a service, they want to pay us X for it, we want X+whatever for it, they’re saying no, and we’re doing what everybody knows is the only way to win in any bargaining situation: walk out of the store. If the shopkeeper calls you back in, you win. If not, you lose. That’s the risk we’re all taking. No Karl Marx anywhere to be found in the whole equation.


34 posted on 11/11/2007 10:44:22 AM PST by Nick5
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To: Nick5; karnage; Deb
Nick5 and karnage:

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

I have been a member of the WGA longer than both of you.

karnage wrote "Politics is the art of the possible"

Yes, and ethics is the art of the principled.

Surely the protagonists of your screenplays choose ethics over expediency when faced with a moral dilemma.

You both wrote: I am not a Marxian slave.

Respectfully, I disagree and here is why.

We all know the history of the WGA. It was founded in a jurisdictional dispute between the Screenwriters Guild (today's WGA) and the ScreenPlaywriters Guild.

At the time, the USA and Hollywood was enthralled with Marxist ideology (The Blue Eagle National Recovery Act...the Harry Bridges-Herb Sorrell CSO, etc.)

Cut to the chase. The FDR administration (Department of Marxian Labor) and the Supreme Court (NLRB vs Jones and Laughlin 1937) settled in favor of the Screenwriters model.

The ScreenPlaywriters lost. And with that loss, you and I lost the ability to negotiate as freemen for the copyright of our intellectual property.

That was 1937. Stalin was killing zeks by the millions in the gulag.

70 years later, the only Marxian writers union left in the world is the WGA in Hollywood.

What's up with that?

I can prove it to you.

I dare you to attempt to negotiate as a freeman for the copyright ownership of your next screenplay.

I dare you to even attempt to get a contract where you retain ownership of your intellectual property.

Just try it, boys.

Both the MPAA (the studios) and the WGA will crush you like a wasp.

You will be expelled from the WGA, lose your P & H, and put on a list at the studios never to do business in this town again as a screenwriter.

By the way, that's called a "black list".

You will be mocked, roughed up, belittled, and dehumanized.

Like a zek in the gulag.

You will be called terrible names, socially ostracized, your children will cry; finally your steadfast wife will get depressed and threaten to leave you.

Sounds like Marxian thug politics to me.

What would your protagonist do at this point in your narrative?

CLOSE ON PROTAGONIST: His hands clasped tightly around his head (Brando in Streetcar)

BRANDO
(agonized screaming)
Politics is the art of the possible.

This is why Hollywood scripts suck.

Screenwriters who write these stores are Marxian slaves.

When a writer cowers in real life, his fictional life becomes crap.

I am a Freeper, too. But more than that, I am a Freeman

I have lived through this horror-show many times before.

Do I have to worry about my livelihood now that I have written freely on Free Republic?

The Berlin Wall came down 18 years ago.

Why do some of us still fear for the well being of our families?

What the hell was the Cold War all about, brothers?

Marxism repeats itself, firstly as tragedy, secondly as farce.

On the picket line next week, speak the 3 taboo words of Hollywood and see what happens next:

Right To Work.

God bless you both. Show courage.

Respectfully, "beachcomber"

P.S. Do I have to worry now about my livelihood?

Do I?

35 posted on 11/11/2007 5:25:54 PM PST by Beachcomber
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To: Beachcomber

What’s wrong with being rich?


36 posted on 11/11/2007 8:26:13 PM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: Beachcomber

Of course I won’t try to negotiate as a freeman, out there on my own. I’d be crazy to, when I have a waaaay better chance of getting a good deal if I negotiate with Shawn Ryan (The Shield) and J.J. Abrams (Lost) and John Wells (E.R.) and Joel Surnow (24) on my side of the table sharing their clout with me. It’s just business, and with the showing we’ve made this week, it stands a good chance of being good business too. But of course there’s a risk that it won’t be good business—just like there’s always risk in the free market. If it were Marxian the outcome would be set by the state and guaranteed, and in this strike there is no guarantee whatsoever. Because it’s not Marxian. It’s the free market.


37 posted on 11/12/2007 12:18:19 AM PST by Nick5
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To: Beachcomber
All too true with an exception:

"Hollywood scripts suck" today because (1) TV series, drama or comedy, are written in boring, soul-crushing formats and (2) movie screenplays are written by 22 year old MBAs (the current trend is teams) from Yale.

The next time I have to go into the WGA office, I'm going to slap everyone in there wearing a baseball cap. Enough is enough for the love of GOD!

38 posted on 11/12/2007 12:20:42 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Beachcomber

When I write on spec, I own the material and can dictate my own terms within the parameters of what the market will bear.

When I write for hire, that’s what it is: a job for hire.

I take it, from your description of attempting to negotiate ownership of the copyright, that you tried it - and was kicked out of the WGA. If so, I’m sory to hear about it.

As a conservative Catholic in Hollywood, I have been “called terrible names” and “socially ostracized” for many years. But, like Popeye, “I yam what I yam.”

Do you have to worry about your livelihood because you’ve spoken your mind on FreeRepublic? I dunno. Do I? I’ve been posting since the Clinton years, and have somehow managed to survive.

We all do what our consciences dictate...


39 posted on 11/12/2007 5:22:59 PM PST by karnage
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