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Road to Des Moines Conversions on Immigration (Hunter Press release)
News Which Cannot Lose ^ | 10/25/07 | Duncan Hunter/staff

Posted on 10/26/2007 11:42:37 AM PDT by pissant

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To: ejonesie22

But Bush wasn’t the alternative to Gore in the primaries . . . that’s the point! You act as if the primaries are the general election. You can vote for a conservative in the primaries and it’s not a vote for Clinton or a Democrat at all. You can still vote for the best choice in the general election even if it’s not the true conservative you voted for in the primary. BUT if you work hard and are lucky, you may just get someone you can really support whole-heartedly if you go for the conservative in the primary. There is no reason to give up before you even fight for what you believe in.


141 posted on 10/29/2007 7:21:46 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F
That is true, but the primaries are not the final vote, the general is. So you get the guy who can take that and still comes as close to what you want.Or do you think that Gore would have appointed conservative judges just for us...
142 posted on 10/29/2007 7:29:40 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: Paperdoll; All

SO let me get this straight, Bush and Thompson are Communist?

Is that what you are saying?

I want to be very clear on this one.


143 posted on 10/29/2007 7:31:43 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: ejonesie22

I think that we should have had conservatives running for President as Republicans since Reagan. We haven’t had a single one because we are too busy voting for the consensus candidate. We are handicapping ourselves out of any possibility of saving our country.


144 posted on 10/29/2007 7:32:12 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Pistolshot

Well...


145 posted on 10/29/2007 7:32:43 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: Greg F
Give me some examples of those that have been on the list the past few cycles that you think should have been in.
146 posted on 10/29/2007 7:34:23 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: ejonesie22

Steve Forbes over George Bush any day of the week.


147 posted on 10/29/2007 7:38:42 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: ejonesie22
If that’s a problem may I suggest you quit worrying about me and get together with your team and solve the riddle of why Hunter gains no traction despite being the “perfect” Conservative.

Having participated in a number of campaigns, and watching Hunter not get any face time it is fairly easy to point to his campaign management as the failure.

There have been numerous opportunities for Hunter to set himself apart, but it hasn't happened.

Here are a just couple of examples.

Press Conference in Texas attended by ONE reporter who found out about the press conference on the internet, not from the campaign. Sure, he won a straw poll in Texas, but none of the other candidates were there. And again, did this win get exploited in the next debates? Nope. It was an anomaly, a bump in the road.

Let's look at the San Diego County fires. THIS IS HIS DISTRICT. There should be a news conference every other day on what is happening, the support coming, interfacing with the governor, and the appearance with the President on his visit.

Where was his management? These are PRIME opportunities to get your candidates face nationally broadcast, and nothing came of it.

Now some of the DuncanDelusionists© will say..."He was busy helping."......."It's about helping, not politicing." My response? It's politics, and when you are running for President of the United States, it's about image, and that is a NATIONAL requirement to win as POTUS.

Duncan may be the 'perfect' candidate, but you couldn't tell from his campaign management.

148 posted on 10/29/2007 7:41:28 AM PDT by Pistolshot
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To: Greg F
Well duh, but Forbes, God love him, came across like wet paper.

Elections are not about what you and I think, its about what those idiots watching "American Idol" who by some terrible Constitutional decision made many many years ago, have the right to vote.

149 posted on 10/29/2007 7:44:13 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: ejonesie22

Bush came across as wet paper too! Bush is a terrible, terrible public speaker and the appearance of arrogance that Bush projects is irritating to most people. He had little to nothing over Forbes EXCEPT that people decided Bush could win and Forbes couldn’t (based on what they heard from the media). But the media is not friendly to conservatives so . . . our impression will always be that the conservative can’t win while the moderate can. Then we got No Child Left Behind, Prescription Drugs coverage, and the fastest rate of government growth since Roosevelt from the “moderate” George Bush . . . a loss from Bob Dole . . . and tax increases from George Bush I.


150 posted on 10/29/2007 7:50:24 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Pistolshot
I think that’s large part of it. One can be an ideologue or a politician, but is is damn hard to be both.

I saw a response from some one here about the fact that that Duncan wouldn’t “exploit” the situation with the fires. Hell it’s not exploitation to be there, be involved and at the same time make it work to your advantage. That’s what successful politicians learn early on, the art of doing both, doing the job and doing the promotion. It’s what gets you bumped up stairs.

Everyone loves the purist, the guy who is above the fray, but outside of their adherents, they don’t pay attention to him long.

151 posted on 10/29/2007 7:50:39 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: Greg F
Yeah, but Bush came across as lovable wet paper, that’s the difference. The middle wants to be talk to, not at, they don’t have the attention span for a lecture about what is good for them, they want a howdy and vote for me and things will be just dandy. That’s what killed Steve, while he was right, he was preachy the masses want something else.

As for the rest, remember the thing we have gotten from Bush though. Judge Roberts, tax cuts, strong stand on the WOT to name a few. Mixed bag, sure, but better than what could have been.

152 posted on 10/29/2007 7:55:55 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: ejonesie22

My basic view is that the system is broken. The same argument you are making for Thompson as “the best that can win” is being made for Guilianni (he can beat Hillary, he’s our man), and the same argument was made for both Bushes and Dole. Support CONSERVATIVES.


153 posted on 10/29/2007 8:10:40 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F

I am...


154 posted on 10/29/2007 8:12:44 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: ejonesie22

Are you? Thompson supported McCain Feingold. Voted against the impeachment of Clinton. Left the Senate to go be an actor on TV. He may end up being our nominee but there is no reason to support a guy like him over Hunter at this stage of the game imo.


155 posted on 10/29/2007 8:17:28 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: ejonesie22

I am saying that the goals of the globalists is one world government. More than likely it will turn out to be Communist or worse. Bush is a globalist, and Fred has said he thinks the globalism is beneficial to the USA. If the shoe fits...

Is that clear enough for you?


156 posted on 10/29/2007 12:57:06 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Paperdoll
So Bush and Thompson are potential Communist...

Interesting...

Yes that clears it up...

157 posted on 10/29/2007 2:11:47 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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