Posted on 09/14/2007 8:48:57 AM PDT by Calpernia
..sometimes that biting Irish sarcasm doesn't come through clearly in my writing--(note the little winking emoticon in my post)
Did the congress pass new appropriations when they changed the electronic surveillance laws a couple of months ago? Nope, the didn’t. Do you think the NSA is sitting around waiting for the next omnibus appropriations bill? No. And the DHS does not have to wait for the next appropriations bill either. They have $800K left of 1.2 billion already appropriated for border security. The Secure Fence act redirected how that border security was to proceed. If it didn’t, they would not have 20 miles of it built already, with a promise for many more over the coming months.
But you can keep pretending.
That is a ping. Not the abuse button.
Once again you prove you don’t understand a thing about civics. The budget for personnel was already in place for the NSA, they already had the equipment. The fence, however is a tangible item that needs funding to be built. Therefore, it requires appropriations. The Secure Fence Act did NOT authorize more funding, it only detailed where the fence should be located. You apparently are not good at math either...they have enough to build 25 miles at the estimated $3M/mile. with the $50M that was not withheld from the $1.2B.
You are still calling out the moderator to the thread...what is the difference? Another disengenuous copout.
Please copy and paste my ‘copout’. What copout did I make?
Oh, Walter, the “You” in my post was directed to rn, not to you. I saw that tongue in your cheek! :)
That wasn’t my point in posting that. Hunter supporters are well known for becoming irate when it comes to Thompson, they just love to hit the Thompson threads and trash him...just thought I’d have some fun and level the playing field a little, especially since Calpernia was trying to pass this off as some kind of investigative thread when given his/her recent posting history, his/her motive is clear. They’re really not as smart as they think they or their candidate are. They ignore facts when presented, dear Hunter can do no wrong...phhhht! It makes me nauseous.
{Yawn}...Okay, I have made my points and now I am tired of playing this game, I'll take my ball and go to another thread now.
We must try to keep in mind that Calpernia did not write this piece. William Saffire wrote it.
LOL! When you were a kid, I’ll bet you were always the cop in “cops and robbers”. Now you are playing “cop” on FR. :)
BS. What do you know about NSA foreign operations? Electronics and software and personnel are very expensive. Additional translators, more $$.
You are blowing smoke.
This thread is relevant to the campaign finance laws for the case on Hsu. The GOP and RNC use the Clintons as the only issue to raise money for their cause.
The Fred supporters say Thompson is the only one that can beat Hillary.
Well, here is the moment for all of us to take down the Clinton Crime Family. Even Fred stated:
You all should be screaming how right he was. Why aren't you?
He is right. Here is the redux.
You have no point other than distraction from this thread.
Ha...got you there...I work with the DoD...try again smartypants. Also, show me in Hunter’s bill where funding was provided...and I want a link to the source. The clock is running...tick...tick...tick....
Are you union?
Is this it?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/homeland/
The Secure Fence Act Builds On Progress Securing The Border
-More than doubled funding for border security - from $4.6 billion in 2001 to $10.4 billion this year;
Maybe so, but that is not why you posted it, that is my point and I made it well. Bye now.
Actually, you didn’t make any point.
And I hope you are lying about working for the DOD.
Are you posting on a message forum from work?
I find it absolutely frightening that someone from the DOD would be on a message forum attacking citizens for taking interest in news and politics and spreading lies about Congressmen the serve on the House Arms Committee.
The Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109-367) was enacted October 26, 2006[1] in the United States. Its primary purpose is to build 700 miles of new fencing along the United StatesMexico border with the intention of controlling illegal immigration into the United States of America. It passed 80-19 in the Senate and 283-138 in the House. No funding was allocated to the fence at the time the bill was passed. However, funding will eventually be allocated to the project, which will determine how much of the fence is to be built.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush signed a bill Thursday authorizing the construction of a fence along one-third of the 2,100-mile (3,360-kilometer) U.S. border with Mexico, but missing from the legislation is a means to pay for it.
The act provides no funding mechanism for the fence, though a $1.2 billion appropriation was approved as part of a bill the president signed this month. There are no concrete numbers, but estimates suggest the fence would cost twice that amount. The earlier bill, however, stipulates that the $1.2 billion could be used for a fence, lighting, vehicle barriers and high-tech equipment.
As I pointed out in my other post on this thread, they withheld $950M until the plans are approved by the Appropriations Committee, so they only have $50M, which built the 20 miles that pissant is crowing about.
Ugh...no way.
The they would be congress, no?
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