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To: roamer_1
We had best get behind someone everyone believes in.

And just who might that be, Duncan Hunter, who can't even get above 10% of Republican voters? Do you HONESTLY think he could beat any Democrat who is nominated in 2008? The Republican candidate will not only have to appeal to conservative voters, but to independent voters as well. That doesn't mean that the candidate needn't espouse conservative ideas, but that the person will have to be someone with whom a wider range of voters will be comfortable.

The 'lesser of two evils' as you call it, will still be able to appoint Justices who will uphold the values you and the others here proclaim to hold so dear. By sitting out the election because your guy isn't the nominee, or even worse, by voting third party, you're showing that you don't really care if your values are upheld, you just want to punish the Republican party for not choosing someone YOU want.

Back in 1992 when Ross Perot was courting disaffected Republicans, folks thought they had the luxury of making their statement. The world was in a relatively peaceful place. We don't have that luxury today. We are in a war with folks who, if they are victorious, won't care a hoot in hell what OUR values are. They'll be imposing their own values and way of life on us. I believe there is a vast difference in the way a Republican President will handle the Islamic threat versus what a Democrat would do. I don't want to give the Democrats a chance to put us in that kind of danger.

112 posted on 09/12/2007 1:32:24 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
And just who might that be, Duncan Hunter, who can't even get above 10% of Republican voters?

Duncan is my first choice of course, and I wouldn't mind Tancredo. The rest don't deserve the vote. There are no other conservatives on the field.

Do you HONESTLY think he could beat any Democrat who is nominated in 2008?

As far as Hunter is concerned, I think he is the only one who could beat the dems with a mandate and coattails. Tanc might win, but wouldn't have as good a chance as Hunter.

[...] will still be able to appoint Justices who will uphold the values you and the others here proclaim to hold so dear.

Or, at least they say they will appoint conservative justices; but then, that just depends on what their definition of "conservative" is.

I believe there is a vast difference in the way a Republican President will handle the Islamic threat versus what a Democrat would do. I don't want to give the Democrats a chance to put us in that kind of danger.

So... Where does Fred get his war credentials? "Hunt for Red October"? The ONLY candidate on the field to support for our troops sake, is one of their own. The Republicans still hold the war card (I don't care what the polls say) provided they hold up a candidate that the nation can accept as CiC, One who has credibility.

You may argue, you may rail, but those same 19 million hard right conservatives and quite a few of their broken-glass compatriots (including myself) must be on board before you think of any independents or blue-state calculations. If your candidate cannot carry the base en masse, your candidate will certainly lose.

That is the basis of my reasoning in fact. The primary is the important selection. We must put forward a true conservative, with faith and confidence. You tell me, who stands a chance at bringing the right, the hard right, and the Libertarians along? WHo has the record to prove it?

How long shall you run to your prophets with itching ears?

See tagline.

114 posted on 09/12/2007 2:02:30 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: SuziQ
And just who might that be, Duncan Hunter, who can't even get above 10% of Republican voters? Do you HONESTLY think he could beat any Democrat who is nominated in 2008?

How many straw polls has Duncan Hunter won or placed second in? Hint: all of them. How many has Thompson participated in? Hint: just like the debates, none of them. Easy to be a candidate when you're an actor the MSM knows and you're making a career of avoiding the competition, eh?

Frankly, I'm getting tired of the smugness, arrogance, and condescension displayed by Fredheads when they promote their dead senator. I'll tell you one thing, no Republican candidate who gets on Fox News and says: "...you're going to have to, in some way, work out a deal where they can have some aspirations of citizenship..." when discussing illegals (like Fred did in April 2006) is going to win a general election. I know that. You know that. You're just too worried about protecting the corpse of the RNC to admit it.
125 posted on 09/12/2007 8:09:34 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Rudy = Hillary, Fred = Dole, Romney = Kerry, McCain = Crazy. No Thanks.)
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To: SuziQ
You posted to roamer-1

By sitting out the election because your guy isn't the nominee, or even worse, by voting third party, you're showing that you don't really care if your values are upheld, you just want to punish the Republican party for not choosing someone YOU want.

Absolutely

I hope to he*l you Freepers out there that "taught the republicans a lesson" last election smarten up a bit this time. Thanks in large part to you, we have Reid, Pelosi and gang running amok over our country.

If you sit out the vote - you ARE voting. Your one vote less on our side will count for one vote more for the dimRats...the vote YOU gave them.

It seems to me that the sit-out voters who get their knickers in a twist if everything isn't 100% their way are demonstrating a colossal = and misplaced - sense of their individual importance.

"We stand together, or we fall apart" mt

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138 posted on 09/17/2007 10:04:17 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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