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I think border security and Hunter’s ideas on China and manufacturing jobs will resonate with American’s across the board far better than a few seasons on Law and Order.

So why do we need a 'Values Voters' debate to determine that? Fred Thompson has stated his positions on illegal immigration. All you have to do is read his essays and listen to his radio commentaries. Same for abortion and homosexual 'marriage'. He has made his views known. Why should he have to perform for some self appointed leaders in order to re-state them, just so that he can get their 'blessing'. That's no different from the liberal media folks, except for the tenor of the questions.

So... ya never heard of any of them before right?

How would you know if they were self appointed or how they came to be doing what they are doing then?

Why should anyone have to perform for anyone... maybe we should go back to the old Front Porch Campaigns?

And it’s a VERY SIGNIFICANT difference from how and what the Liberal Media Folks are doing... but you know that Suzi... And we know you know that...

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We don’t and I don’t recall saying we did. :) That’s a bit of a straw-man there. If Fred has stated his positions he doesn’t have to do anything more. Why would he need to go to any debate? Why would he need to run any commercials? Why would he need to appear on Leno?

The Values Voter Debate is for the sole purpose, I would assume, of introducing the candidates to those they represent. They haven’t proclaimed themselves anything, nor have a heard a word or read a word from them about the top tier not attending.

This attempt to marginalize Values Voters puzzles me. Fred supporters are spinning this as some “Holier than thou” group and making spurious assertions that these people expect candidates to grovel for their “blessing”. This is just not the case and I think you know that.

Is this some rapid response talking point or something? The Values Voters have said nothing about Fred as far as I know. I think we are just beginning to see the real Fred. New Hampshire and values voters, he doesn’t need their blessing. Leno and traveling to England to get Thatcher’s blessing, you bet. I think even you would admit you expected better from Fred? Sometimes our big splashes are just ripples in the pool :)

Fred Thompson has stated his positions on illegal immigration. All you have to do is read his essays and listen to his radio commentaries. Same for abortion and homosexual 'marriage'.

Because he's running for president. Before, when he was a non-candidate, he could hide behind his essays. Now, if he wants votes, it's up to him to get his message out to the people from whom he would like support.

Apparently, he's decided that the Law and Order crowd is enough to get elected, and he doesn't need people of faith to pull the lever.