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To: William Tell

Well, there were cannons, I wonder if there was anything written that would have mentioned those as specific arms “of the people”. Although they may have been too expensive for typical private ownership. However, perhaps some of the private sailing ships had cannon? Where there cannon on our side of the fight at Lexington? If there were - then I would imagine cannon WERE included in our rights. And a cannon back then would be comparable to a 2000 lb bomb today.

I was talking to my kids about how the 2nd Amendment is to protect us from the government, but obviously we would have a difficult time fighting a revolution against it. But, if conditions got so bad - perhaps the State National Guard could be used against the govt? (I’m thinking of some evil dictator that somehow “took over” - I imagine if it got bad enough several governors could band their Guard units together to fight).


13 posted on 09/11/2007 11:07:03 AM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: geopyg
However, perhaps some of the private sailing ships had cannon?

They were called privateers.
27 posted on 09/11/2007 12:08:54 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: geopyg
geopyg said: "Where there cannon on our side of the fight at Lexington? "

I can't speak to that specific detail. But there were certainly cannon used to eject the government's navy from Boston Harbor. These cannon were taken by force from Fort Ticonderoga, a government fort, and hauled overland to be placed on Dorchester Heights, where they had total command of Boston Harbor. The threat that the militia would destroy the warships in the harbor was used as a negotiating point to prevent the occupying government forces from setting fire to the city as they evacuated.

Certainly a militia force that found it necessary to take cannons by force would see that the militia must have access to cannon, regardless of the wishes of the central government.

46 posted on 09/11/2007 4:50:35 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: geopyg
geopyg said: "... but obviously we would have a difficult time fighting a revolution against it."

To the extent that the government is permitted to disarm the people, the fighting of a revolution against it will be even more difficult.

But one must realize that the enemy will not be the loyal troops, but rather the civilian power that would misuse those troops to deny people's inalienable rights. Tyrannical judges, politicians, and bureaucrats would be the main targets.

47 posted on 09/11/2007 4:56:14 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: geopyg
But, if conditions got so bad - perhaps the State National Guard could be used against the govt? (I’m thinking of some evil dictator that somehow “took over” - I imagine if it got bad enough several governors could band their Guard units together to fight).

This actually happened in 1861. The results were unfortunate.

75 posted on 09/11/2007 6:45:04 PM PDT by xsysmgr
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To: geopyg

“Although they may have been too expensive for typical private ownership.”

Most of the commerce-raiding warships in American service during the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 were privately owned.


173 posted on 09/12/2007 9:59:29 PM PDT by Infidel1571
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