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Was There Really a 9/11 Disaster?
From Sea to Shining Sea ^ | 9/10/07 | Purple Mountains

Posted on 09/10/2007 7:17:19 PM PDT by PurpleMountains

USALC and CIA Station Chief, William Francis Buckley, 57, was kidnapped from Beirut, Lebanon on March 16, 1984 before being taken to Iran where he was brutally tortured and killed. He was held captive for 15 months before dying from the torture he had received. In 1991 his body, wrapped in blankets was dumped on a road near the Beirut airport. Mr. Buckley, we have not forgotten you.

To those who keep harping that our military response into Iraq (and even Afghanistan) was a mistake or immoral or an attempt by George Bush to grab their oil, please note that in six years:

1. there have been no further major terrorist attacks in the USA 2. there have been no further bombings of a U.S. embassy 3. there have been no further attacks on U.S. ships 4. there have been no further hijackings of U.S. airplanes 5. there have been no further kidnappings of U.S. officials 6. there have been no further murders of U.S. officials 7. there have been no further bombings of U.S. military barracks 8. scores of terrorist plots have been foiled including one to bring down 10 aircraft bound for the USA and one to bomb our military forces in Germany 9. hundreds of would-be terrorists, including Jose Padilla, Yaser Hamdi, Richard Reid, John Walker Lind, and Zacharias Mousawi, have been apprehended before they could carry out their plots to murder Americans 10. Libya and North Korea have given up the use of nuclear weapons 11. No disabled American in a wheelchair has been thrown into the sea.

This series of successes has been a great surprise to most Americans, and speaks well of President Bush’s initiatives and his management and of the Patriot Act and the surveillance programs put in place by the Bush Administration. The problem is, we are growing complaisant over the terrorist threats, but the Islamists haven’t yet abandoned their murderous plans.

The problem is, many Democrats would rather gain partisan advantage than protect the United States.

The Eye of the 9/11 Storm By Victor Davis Hanson, September 06, 2007, RealClearPolitics

Another anniversary of 9/11 is near. It's been nearly six long years since a catastrophic attack on our shores, and we've understandably turned to infighting and second-guessing - about everything from Guantanamo to wiretaps.

But this six-year calm, unfortunately, has allowed some Americans to believe that "our war on terror" remedy is worse than the original Islamic terrorist disease.

We see this self-recrimination reflected in our current Hollywood fare, which dwells on the evil of American interventions overseas, largely ignoring the courage of our soldiers or the atrocities committed by jihadists. Our tell-all bestsellers, endless lawsuits and congressional investigations have deflected our 9/11-era furor away from the terrorists to ourselves.

All this tail-chasing comes only with the illusory thinking that the present lull is the same as perpetual peace. Have we forgotten that experts still insist that another strike will come, carried out by those already here or shortly to enter the United States?

Look back at jihadist near-misses in this country since 9/11 - along with a disturbing recent Pew poll that found one in four younger Muslim-Americans approve, at least in certain circumstances, of suicide bombing to "defend Islam" - and the dire predictions seem plausible.

Recall the jihadists arrested in Albany and near Buffalo, N.Y., or the recently uncovered plot to attack Fort Dix in New Jersey. Past foiled targets included the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Brooklyn Bridge, JFK Airport in New York and the New York Stock Exchange.

Some angry loners - mouthing jihadist propaganda or anti-American slogans - simply act on their own to try to kill Americans. Iranian-American college student Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar hit several University of North Carolina classmates with his car in March 2006. Last summer, Omeed Aziz Popal was arrested for a hit-and-run rampage in San Francisco. And Naveed Afzal Haq is charged with shooting several women last summer at a Jewish center in Seattle.

Recall also the American residents and citizens with direct connections to al-Qaida's terrorism network.

American Jose Padilla (aka Abdullah al-Muhajir) was just convicted by a jury of terrorist conspiracy. Khalid Abu-al-Dahab, a key al-Qaida recruiter, operated out of California's Silicon Valley. "Sheik" Omar Abdel Rahman advised Egyptian jihadists from his American jail cell - after his conviction for helping to plan the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. U.S. visitor and asylum-seeker Ramzi Yousef was convicted of the same crime. His partner, the indicted American citizen Abdul Rahman Yasin, fled to pre-war Iraq. Another American, Adam Gadahn, regularly narrates al-Qaida communiques.

Khalid Sheik Mohammed - mastermind of the 9/11 mass-murder and the Daniel Pearl decapitation - studied in North Carolina for a number of years. Egyptian-American and U.S. Army veteran Ali Mohamed helped plan the destruction of American embassies in East Africa. The convicted "20th-hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui attended flight school in Oklahoma.

Two things seem clear here. One: There have been, and are now, plenty of Islamic terrorists and their helpers in the United States. And two: We are dangerously shortsighted about the ongoing threat they pose.

Meanwhile, Islamic-American organizations and sympathetic civil-liberties associations file lawsuits about supposed American security excesses and illiberal vigilance.

Last fall, for example, several imams were taken off a flight from Minneapolis when the group's erratic behavior scared fellow passengers. After the incident, one of the so-called "flying imams," Arizonan Omar Shahin, called for boycotts of the involved airline and legislation to stop supposed anti-Muslim profiling.

But the brazen Shahin, it turns out, is more than just a bullied Islamic scholar; he's also helped raise funds for an organization that the U.S. government has tied to Hamas.

Our experts are too often in denial or disarray. Former White House counterterrorism adviser Richard A. Clark, former CIA operative Michael Scheuer and former CIA director George Tenet now make widely publicized strident attacks on ongoing efforts to stop terrorists and level charges against others - and each other. They rarely talk with any humility, much less apprise us of what we can learn from their own failures to stop the 9/11 jihadists during their long tenures.

In short, six years of quiet at home since 9/11 have fooled some into thinking that terrorists pose little danger here - or that we may be doing far too much rather than too little to stop such killers. No matter that this past week a jihadist plot to destroy U.S. facilities in Germany was thwarted.

Others make the mistake of endlessly re-fighting the past six years - who let al-Qaida grow?; who "lost" Osama bin Laden?; who fouled up postwar Iraq? - instead of concentrating on the storm ahead.

Before 2001, the excuse for American complacence and in-fighting was naivete. But what will be the reason for the next successful strike against us by the jihadists?

More naivete - or is it simple hubris?


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: patriotact; presidentbush; victorhanson; williambuckley

1 posted on 09/10/2007 7:17:22 PM PDT by PurpleMountains
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To: PurpleMountains
I have heard that battle hardened agents, wept when they were shown the video of his tortured death.

Not sure if it is true but it is said, that the terrorist sent the video tape of his death to Reagan.

2 posted on 09/10/2007 7:20:26 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: PurpleMountains
The problem is, many Democrats would rather gain partisan advantage than protect the United States.

The problem is many Democrats consider themselves socialists instead of Americans and America's democratic republic is anathema to socialism so they feel compelled to use any method to destroy our country.
3 posted on 09/10/2007 7:23:16 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: mware

We watched the snuff flicks in Iraq - they were almost all Jihadi recruiting films confiscated off raided laptops.

I can’t say what my true feelings are, and remain a member of this forum.


4 posted on 09/10/2007 7:27:36 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Man50D
...and America's democratic republic is anathema...

Please don't call us a "democratic republic;" it makes me think of some 3rd world socialist hellhole. Personally, I prefer the phrase "Federal Republic."
5 posted on 09/10/2007 7:30:29 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Old Sarge
Damn Sarge, I could not watch that stuff. I don't think I would ever be able to sleep again.

When they were beheading all those americans for awhile there, I was half afraid to come on some threads for fear they might have some of those photos.

Damn, what a way to die.

6 posted on 09/10/2007 7:32:21 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware

Thing to remember is, not all of the snuff flicks were Americans. They were anyone that the Mooj could put a knife to a neck. In some cases, their only crime was they talked to us.

The only affect it had on us was to teach us exactly what kind of animal we were up against.


7 posted on 09/10/2007 7:45:22 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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