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1 posted on 07/17/2007 7:55:34 AM PDT by Calpernia
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2 posted on 07/17/2007 7:57:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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I heard the prosecuting attorney and he made some interesting arguments.

The agents are not in jail for doing their job but because:
1) The officers shot then tried to cover it up.
2) Because of their attempted coverup they had no case against the mexican drug smuggler.

If this is true, then it sheds a different light on this case- Does anyone else know more about it?


4 posted on 07/17/2007 8:00:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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BTTT

Gotta respect this man ... Someone good and right from CALIFORNIA ... there are a few of us here amongst the fruits and nuts. :-)


6 posted on 07/17/2007 8:01:45 AM PDT by Bobibutu
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“Aldrete-Davila, who faces no charges, is believed to be considering a civil suit against the agents and the United States Government. It is believed that he will seek $5M for the violation of his civil rights.”

Since when do wetbacks have civil rights?


8 posted on 07/17/2007 8:04:57 AM PDT by Bobibutu
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bump


10 posted on 07/17/2007 8:08:00 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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"Fight" full pardon for border patrol agents (Duncan Hunter)

Your headline makes it sound like he's against it.

11 posted on 07/17/2007 8:08:21 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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I understand that this morning there is a Senate Judiciary meeting being held looking into the prosecution of these agents. My Senator, John Cornyn, in the meeting is law and order but he especially wants to look into this matter.

These agents do not need to be where they are.


15 posted on 07/17/2007 8:11:05 AM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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And just think about it

If the smuggler sues and wins the money will be immediately taken to Mehico where the smuggler can start his own drug business and not have to smuggle for someone else.


20 posted on 07/17/2007 8:17:18 AM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1863953/posts
Senate Hearing On Ramos and Compean 7/17/07


24 posted on 07/17/2007 8:24:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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This hearing is going on right now....but not on CSPAN or CSPAN2. Is it closed or just not getting coverage?


25 posted on 07/17/2007 8:26:31 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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Ramos and Compean AND Hunter ping!

I'm sitting here watching Townsend tell us that we can't let our guard down with respect to a US soil attack from terrorists but we are prosecuting OUR Border Patrol Agents! Oh I feel sooooo much safer!! (/s)

26 posted on 07/17/2007 8:27:39 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08 (I'll add Thompson if he ever decides to enter the race))
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Hunter/Tancredo 2008.


28 posted on 07/17/2007 8:32:52 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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Isn't there also going to be a hearing on the role that the MEXICAN GOVERNMENT had in prosecution of this case?
30 posted on 07/17/2007 8:33:42 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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39 posted on 07/17/2007 9:17:00 AM PDT by davidlachnicht ("IF WE'RE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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Has Fred Thompson weighed in on this issue?


40 posted on 07/17/2007 9:21:15 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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Thanks for posting this, bump for Duncan Hunter & read later.


46 posted on 07/17/2007 10:54:48 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq -- via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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Duncan Hunter BTTT


47 posted on 07/17/2007 11:14:54 AM PDT by davidosborne (Duncan "Build the Fence" Hunter for President in '08 - Fred Thompson for VEEP !)
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Ramos & Compean ping.


48 posted on 07/17/2007 11:16:17 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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51 posted on 07/17/2007 12:21:39 PM PDT by gubamyster
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UPDATE:

For immediate release:
July 17, 2007

Hunter testifies for border patrol agents
California Congressman seeks full pardon for Ramos and Compean

(Washington, D. C.).....United States Congressman Duncan Hunter took his fight to the nation’s capitol today (July 17) to convince President Bush to pardon two border patrol agents he feels were unjustly imprisoned.

Hunter appeared before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism

Technology and Homeland Security.

The California Congressman testified that he strongly supports a Presidential pardon of former agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean because, “there is absolutely no justification for such unfair and excessive prison sentences.”

The incident dates back to February 2005, when the agents tried to stop a van driven by alleged drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila near the Mexico border. According to court documents, a scuffle ensued between agent Compean and suspect Aldrete-Davila. The suspect broke loose and fled on foot.

Agent Ramos says he believes that he saw a gun, a fact contradicted by the suspect. Both agents reportedly fired at Aldrete-Davila, who fell, then continued his escape across the border.

Later, Ramos and Compean filed their official report listing the 743-pounds of marijuana they found in the van, but failed to mention the gunfire.

A Homeland Security agent apparently heard about the episode and traveled to Mexico. According to court documents, the Homeland Security agent offered

Aldrete-Davila immunity, if he would testify against Ramos and Compean.

In his testimony today, Hunter took offense to that arrangement. “The U.S. government sadly decided to side with the drug dealer and prosecute agents Compean and Ramos for simply fulfilling their duties as border patrolmen.

The drug smuggler walked away from the incident with only a wound in his rear-end, and the opportunity to attempt another drug run.”

Hunter continued, “The men and women of the border patrol are certainly not above the laws they are empowered to enforce, but, they must also know that when they apply the necessary and appropriate level of force, their government will not work aggressively to ensure they are punished while lawlessness is rewarded.”

U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, a Bush appointee, prosecuted the agents.

In March, a jury found them guilty of assault with a dangerous weapon discharge of a firearm during a violent crime, obstructing justice lying about the incident, and willfully violating Aldrete-Davila’s Fourth Amendment right to be free from illegal seizure.

Because there was gunfire, the mandatory-minimum prison sentence the agents will serve is 10 years. The U.S. Probation Office in El Paso, Texas had recommended 20 years for each of the two agents. Hunter reemphasized his belief that, “there is absolutely no justification for such unfair and excessive prison sentences.”

Hunter’s congressional district is in southern California near the border with Mexico. He told the members of the subcommittee, “I represent the border communities, and have for more than 26-years. I have worked with the fine men and women of the U.S. Border Patrol to ensure they receive the support and resources they need to address the constant intrusion of drug and human smugglers across our borders. It troubles me to think that questionable testimony by a drug smuggler, who was granted immunity and free medical care for his cooperation, was put before the two border patrol agents who willingly accepted this inherently dangerous responsibility.”

Hunter noted, “The very day they surrendered to federal custody, I recommended that agents Compean and Ramos be segregated and was assured they would be removed from the general population and close attention was being paid to their personal safety. The attack against agent Ramos indicates concerns for his personal safety and protection were ignored.”

On February 6, 2007, Hunter wrote to the President requesting that an investigation be conducted into the attack against agent Ramos. The letter also requested that Bureau of Prisons Director Harley Lappin be discharged from his position should it be ascertained that the proper precautions were not taken.

Hunter concluded his testimony by emphasizing his belief that “Pardoning agents Compean and Ramos is the only option available to correct this terrible injustice and, just as importantly, restoring the confidence of the border patrol and the American people that their nation is serious about enforcing its immigration and smuggling laws.” Hunter has said when elected president, his first order of business will be to pardon the agents.

Hunter has led the national campaign for border security and
immigration reform. He has been joined by scores of his fellow members, and several activist groups. He was the only Republican Presidential Candidate to attend Tuesday’s hearing.

Observers believe that the subcommittee members sought Hunter’s testimony because of his long fight for a more secure border, and his legislative initiatives. Hunter drafted legislation that was signed by the President to construct over 800 miles of fence on the southern border. Only a few miles of fencing have been completed. Hunter has charged that the department of Homeland Security has the money and the mandate, but “the administration has a ‘case of the slows’ in getting the fence built.” He has pledged that “he will see that the fence is up within six month after he takes office as President.


62 posted on 07/17/2007 5:59:37 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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