Islamists' Excuses to commit Crimes against Humanity all over the world

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Islamists' Criminal Excuses to commit crimes against humanity all over the world

Rice Urges World to Stop Making Excuses for Terrorists, "When are we going to stop making excuses for the terrorists and saying that somebody ... Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics: War on Terrorism ...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/7/29/204707.shtml  

The Star - News - 'Stop making excuses for Muslim criminals', 'Stop making excuses for Muslim criminals' ... The impression is that they are making excuses for terrorism and that's wrong. "Terrorism is a terrible thing ..."
http://www.thestar.co.uk/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=1698420

the jihad's excuses for its mass-murders are not even worth a hearing. ...
http://watch.windsofchange.net/2004/04_0308_0314.htm

Straw said it was time to stop making ''excuses" for terrorism. ''The terrorists have struck across the world,
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2005/07/19/3_london_bombing_suspects_were_in_pakistan _this_year/

Is (so called) "Occupation" an Excuse for Terrorism?  Call it what you will, under the banners of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al Aksa Martyrs' ... The claim that "occupation" excuses terrorism has made...
http://www.peacewithrealism.org/excuse.htm 

No More Excuses
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/article.php3?id=3107

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A refreshingly honest admission
http://www.forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=170

The Islamic group Hizb-ut-Tahrir has given Forum 18 News Service a remarkably open acknowledgment of radical Muslim goals.

It's all here. Hizb-ut-Tahrir wants to:

1. Restore a worldwide Caliphate, uniting the world under Islamic rule;

2. Ban all faiths apart from Islam, Judaism and Christianity (members of other religions are not listed as "People of the Book" in the Qur'an);

3. Regulate all religious practice according to Sharia law;

4. "Give all non-Muslim states a choice between either joining the Caliphate under Sharia law, or paying a tax to the Caliphate. Failure to pay the tax would be punished by military attacks."

What the story doesn't say is that Hizb-ut-Tahrir is not saying anything new; it's expressing classic principles of Islamic jurisprudence that are shared by many Muslims worldwide who are not members of this particular organization. Sheikh Omar Bakri in England, for example, has said much the same thing. I profile many others in Onward Muslim Soldiers.

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http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/stoNp.htm

Stop making excuses for Muslim extremists

Oct. 30, 2002 
Mark Steyn
 You get the picture: Sure, Muslim fundamentalists can be pretty extreme, but what about all our Christian fundamentalists? Unfortunately, for the old moral equivalence to hold up, the Christians really need to get off their fundamentalist behinds and start killing more people. At the moment, the brilliantly versatile Muslim fundamentalists are gunning down Maryland schoolkids and bus drivers, hijacking Moscow musicals, self-detonating in Israeli pizza parlours, blowing up French oil tankers in Yemen, and slaughtering nightclubbers in Bali, while Christian fundamentalists are, er, sounding extremely strident in their calls for the return of prayer in school
Heigh-ho. After weeks of assurances that the sniper was an "angry white male," it turns out the only angry white males connected to this story are the ones in America's newsrooms...

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http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/excuses.htm Stop making excuses for Muslim extremists.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/08/excuse_after_excuse.html Excuse After Excuse-

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/11/22/111047.shtml?s=tn Radical Muslims: 'Convert or Die'- It is time to stop the charade of Muslim victimization, as it can never excuse the bombings, torture, and beheadings of innocent people

'A country's foreign policy is never an excuse for terrorism' http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/07inter1.htm?zcc=rl

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http://www.stoptheism.com/Default.asp?M=1&T=276 ISM AND-ARAB MUSLIMS BOGUS EXCUSES LIST TO SLAUGHTER THE INNOCENT.
ISM AND-ARAB MUSLIMS BOGUS EXCUSES LIST TO SLAUGHTER THE INNOCENT

 

EXCUSE:

US has been anti Muslim...

 

FACT REMINDER:

Bosnia & Somalia were Muslim countries that US rushed to help.

Most of all Who saved Iraqi Muslims from Saddam???

 

EXCUSE:

US has it's military bases on Arabian soil...

 

FACT REMINDER:

Is this not the Arabian Govt. that wants/needs protection from their radical 'brothers'?

 

EXCUSE:

US' foreign policy is pro Israel & Israel is anti Arab Muslims.

 

FACT REMINDER:

1) Not only is Israel just trying to survive against Arab militant terrorists but Arabs that are not engaged in terror enjoy a nice life inside Israel.

2) Especially now that even US puts more & more pressure on VICTIM Israel to give more & more concessions to AGGRESSOR Arab "palestinians"...

 

EXCUSE:

Arabs bomb Israeli innocent men women & children as their only weapon against "occupation."

 

FACT REMINDER:

1) Arab "palestinians" started to butcher Jews already (at least since) in 1929.
2) What does teaching their children to kill all Jews or all Christians have to do with so called "freedom fighting"?
3) Even if we'd say that "Palestinian" ARABS should have a homeland, most voices in democratic Israel are for trying to give land for ARAB "Palestinians," whereas ARAB terrorists' organizations (with so much backing in their wider population) want it all.
4) This EXCUSE won't work worldwide where Arab Muslims bomb torture & kill non Muslim.

 

EXCUSE:

"Desperate" Arab-Muslims act on their own...

 

FACT REMINDER:

Extensive documentation about Arab Muslims MAIN media (asides from their competition on lying about the West) & major influential leaders inciting to violence & encouraging/glorifying HOMICIDE BOMBING on civilians as "martyrs."
PS
Sophisticated bombers need real help from expert adults.

 

EXCUSE:

US & UK bombed civilians in Iraq.

 

FACT REMINDER:

US & UK saved Arab Muslim Kuwait & Arab Muslim Iraqis from Iraqi brutal tyrant Saddam Hussein

 

EXCUSE:

US & UK bombed Afghanistan, Israel bombed Arab "Palestinian" terror centers

 

FACT REMINDER:

US UK & Israel were never targeting civilians, imagine if Israel (for example) would not be careful even in collateral damage...

And how do any of the above excuses ever "justify" targeting innocent unarmed people in most of the entire world?

 

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It's all about Iraq, isn't it?

 

Yep, it's all about Iraq and...

India and the Sudan and Algeria and Afghanistan and New York and Pakistan and Israel and Russia and Chechnya and the Philippines and Indonesia and Nigeria and England and Thailand and Spain and Egypt and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Ingushetia and Dagestan and Turkey and Kabardino-Balkaria and Morocco and Yemen and Lebanon and France and Uzbekistan and Gaza and Tunisia and Kosovo and Bosnia and Mauritania and Kenya and Eritrea and Syria and Somalia and California and Argentina and Kuwait and Virginia and Ethiopia and Iran and Jordan and United Arab Emirates and Louisiana and Texas and Tanzania and Germany and Australia and Pennsylvania and Belgium and Denmark and East Timor and Qatar and Maryland and Tajikistan and the Netherlands and Scotland and Chad and Canada and China and... ,p> ...and pretty much wherever Muslims believe their religion tells them to:

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, ... nor follow the religion of truth... until they pay the tax in acknowledg-ment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Qur'an, Sura 9:29 ( http://thereligionofpeace.com   )

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Islamists' planned attacks on the UK in 2001 - long before that "Iraq excuse" came about.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/monitoring/media_reports/1713557.stm

BBC News | MEDIA REPORTS | Al-Qaeda note suggests 'attack on London'- [ Traduzca esta página ]Sunday, 16 December, 2001, 16:08 GMT. Al-Qaeda note suggests 'attack on London'

Several newspapers have reported the discovery of what could be al-Qaeda plans to carry out a "terrorist attack" on London.
A notebook was reportedly found in a house in the southern Afghan city of Kandahar from which followers of Osama Bin Laden "are believed to have fled in a hurry".

The notebook is said to have contained plans to detonate a 480kg remote control device "to be left in a van parked preferably in Moorgate, in the City of London".

The planned attack is reported in both The Observer newspaper in London and the Expresso...

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,,581216,00.html

 Al-Qaida cell in UK 'planned attack' (2001)

John Hooper in Berlin and Nick Hopkins
 Friday October 26, 2001

 An attack by Osama bin Laden's guerrillas in Britain this year was foiled as they were on the point of striking, according to an al-Qaida commander in Europe and one of his associates.

 Their startling revelation emerges in a police report obtained by the Guardian which gives details of a discussion between Islamist extremists secretly taped by Italian anti-terrorist detectives last March. The conversation was held just four days after police at Heathrow had made the last in a series of arrests of suspected al-Qaida terrorists in Britain. 

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/16/wbin16.xml
Bin Laden British cell planned gas attack on European Parliament

By David Bamber, Chris Hastings and Rajeev Syal
(Filed: 16/09/2001)

ISLAMIC terrorists based in Britain and controlled by Osama bin Laden planned a devastating attack in February on the European Parliament building in Strasbourg.

  
Osama bin Laden: may have as many as 5,000 supporters among young Muslims in Britain
A six-strong terror cell funded by the Saudi fugitive planned to kill all 625 Euro-MPs, and scores of officials, by releasing sarin gas into the parliament building.

The attack was scheduled to take place during the session of parliament from February 11 to 14 this year and was to be the first in a series of assaults against prominent buildings across Europe. Algerian terrorists based in London and funded directly by bin Laden worked with counterparts in Milan and Frankfurt.

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What does all this suggest?

That even the Iraq excuse is nonsense (the Iraq war, which is mainly Muslim vs Muslim atrocties due to the traditional intolerance & hatred between Sunnis/Shiites, but still they always like to blame the non Muslim party, boy! do they have enormous help from liberals appeasers).

And that the "palestine" excuse (which is basically nothing more than an attempt to try & wash one crime via yet another crime, since it is the Arab Muslim "palestinians" who are trying to ethnic cleanse and commit genocide againt the Jews, since the 1920's, using most despicable tools known to man kind, like using their women & children as human bombs & as human shields, to make sure they die, so they can play "victim", still the perception in the Arab Muslim world is to buy "palestinian" propaganda), is also a fake.

For Jihadists will always find excuses.

 

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[Man50D]

Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims

NewsMax.com Wires

Thursday, June 20, 2002

WASHINGTON – A leader of the small worldwide Muslim reform movement is warning the West against wishful thinking as the U.S. government promotes an intensive dialogue with Islam.

"The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other," Bassam Tibi said Tuesday in an interview with United Press International.

Syrian-born Tibi, who claims to be a direct descendant of the prophet Mohammed and teaches political science at Goettingen University in Germany, appealed for intellectual honesty in these exchanges.

This Is 'Peace'?

"First, both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them. The word 'peace,' for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam – or 'House of Islam' – to the entire world," explained Tibi, who is also a research scholar at Harvard University.

"This is completely different from the Enlightenment concept of eternal peace that dominates Western thought, a concept developed by Immanuel Kant," an 18th-century philosopher.

This Is 'Tolerance'?

"Similarly, when Muslims and the Western heirs of the Enlightenment speak of tolerance they have different things in mind. In Islamic terminology, this term implies abiding non-Islamic monotheists, such as Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, as second-class believers. They are 'dhimmi,' a protected but politically immature minority."

According to Tibi, the quest of converting the entire world to Islam is an immutable fixture of the Muslim worldview. Only if this task is accomplished, if the world has become a "Dar al-Islam," will it also be a "Dar a-Salam," or a house of peace.

Tibi appealed to his co-religionists to "revise their understanding of peace and tolerance by accepting pluralism." Furthermore, he said, Muslim leaders should give up the notion of Jihad in the sense of conquest, as opposed to Jihad as an internal struggle of the individual.

Liberal Mush

Tibi's advice comes at a time when the U.S. government is urging American Muslim leaders to promote understanding for the United States in Islamic regions. To Tibi, this is more of a diplomatic endeavor than the promotion of a more profound theological understanding between Islam and the Judeo-Christian worldview prevalent in the West.

But Muzammil Siddiqi, one senior Islamic scholar the State Department consults with, told UPI he found that his efforts in furthering contacts between Muslim, Christian and Jewish theologians were having some success.

Indian-born Siddiqi is the director of the large Islamic Center of Orange County in California. In consultation with the State Department and in cooperation with the University of Kentucky, he traveled back and forth between the United States and the Middle East trying to convince Muslim theologians and jurists to meet with American church leaders.

"I have found that many, though not all, were ready to welcome visitors from America and also to come here to explore with Christians and Jews what we have in common," Siddiqi said.

Though Siddiqi's center is heavily engaged in interfaith activities, he made it clear that to him, as indeed for conservative Christians, syncretism – the mixing of religions – was anathema.

Common values should be sought out, he explained, and the equality of all believers respected, be they Muslims, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists. But the purity of the faith must not be compromised.

In an article in the prestigious Hamburg weekly Die Zeit, Tibi gave anecdotal evidence of how daunting a task this dialogue with Islam can be.

Staring in Horror at the Bible

The bishop of Hildesheim in Germany paid an imam a courtesy visit in his mosque. The imam handed the Catholic prelate a Koran, which he joyfully accepted. But when the bishop tried to present the imam with a Bible, the Muslim cleric just stared at him in horror and refused to even touch Christianity's holy book.

"The bishop was irritated because he perceived this behavior as a gross discourtesy," wrote Tibi, "but the imam had only acted according to his faith. For if an imam gives a bishop a Koran, he considers this a Da'Wa, or call to Islam."

This, explained Tibi, must be borne in mind when one engages in a dialogue with Muslim "scholars," for it corresponds to a verse in the Koran: "And say ... to those who are unlearned: 'Do ye submit yourselves?'" (Surah 3:20).

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Mainstream Islam is at fault, the terrorists know all too well & motivated by the excuses & apology & encouragement.

[Man50D]

Mainstream Islam is at fault, the terrorists know all too well & motivated by the excuses & apology & encouragement.


What is most disturbing is that most people don't understand the precept of Islam is to dominate the world just as the Nazis attempted during their rise to power from the mid 1920's until the end of WWII. People still are under the impression it is only a minority of Muslims they refer to as "radical Islam". During WWII no one was under the misconception there was only a minority of Nazis causing global problems. They didn't refer to them as radical Nazis. We need to take the same approach with Islam as was taken with the Nazis.

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“Arabs that are not engaged in terror enjoy a nice life inside Israel.”

Not according to the people (who are Christians, by the way) I know who lived there. Where did you get that “fact” from?

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Dear newbietabsternager, welcome to FR, I don't know what your real background is... but I do have MANY Christian Arabs that STILL live inside Israel, Are you referring to Arab Christians persecuted by Muslim "Palestinians"?

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Man50D, you have put it very well.

[tabsternager]

I’ve been a member of FreeRepublic for about 7 years.

Secondly, I asked you what evidence you get from the “fact” you cited. Just adding that you have “many Christian Arabs that still live inside Israel” means nothing.

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Personally? I have visited time & time again the Christians in Israel, in the beautiful free open democraticstate.

Just why does Israel have to "prove" anything? since they are just another western democracy?

The Christian Communities of Israel . http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/Christian_communities.html

International Christian Embassy Jerusalem. http://www.icej.org/

Unless you mean the fake "christian" Arabs like the: http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/8675 Islamochristians and Israel

Myths & Facts - Human Rights in Israel and the Territories. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf18.html

Brigitte Gabriel lebanese christians israel moslems muslims lebanonIt was Israel who came to help the Christians in Lebanon. ... I realized I was sold a fabricated lie by my government, about the Jews and Israel, ... http://www.betar.co.uk/articles/betar1126275187.php

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Arab Muslim Palestinians' Persecution of Christians

Arab "Palestinian" Christians have been suffering and STILL suffer from Arab "Palestinian" Muslim majority.

Just like the Arab Christian Lebanese in "Damour" (Yasir Arafat´s Planned Christian Genocide http://www.chretiens-et-juifs.org/article.php?voir%5B%5D=594&voir%5B%5D=3532 , Hobeika - Damour http://www.free-lebanon.com/LFPNews/hobeika_damour/hobeika_damour.html), where "Palestinian" Muslims massacred Christians senselessly, which brought the reprisal by Arab Christians upon Arab "Palestinian" Muslims in Sabra & shatila.

The "Palestinian" Christians are forced to join the senseless criminal violence against Israeli victims, otherwise they are threatened.

Some Arab "Palestinians" that might be Christian won't admit the awful truth openly, that scared they are!

But some find courage to break the ranks like: http://shoebat.com/, a "Palestinian" Arab (former terrorist) who converted from Islam, terrorism, hatred & bloodshed to Christianity.Which is why he advocates now for Israel the real victim, exposes the lies and incitement he was exposed to while being Muslim. Also see: http://arabsforisrael.com/

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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31285 The truth about Christians in 'Palestine'

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30299 Christian persecution by Arafat

http://www.science.co.il/arab-israeli-conflict/articles/Imra-1997-10-30.asp Palestinian Authority's Treatment of Christians

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51909 Palestinians burn West Bank YMCA Follows Muslim warnings for Christian group

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/reports/Denial_of_Religious_Rights_by_the_Palestinian_Authority.asp Denial of Religious Rights by the Palestinian Authority Not just Jews, but Christians have also been victimized by Islamic intolerance for 'infidel' holy sites.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/010061.php Dhimmi Watch: Fitzgerald: IslamoChristians and Bethlehem

http://bethg2.envy.nu/ Islamization of Bethlehem - DRIVE THE INFIDELS OUT & TAKE THEIR LAND AND PROPERTY

http://www.ourjerusalem.com/press/story/press20051017.html The Pogrom on Christians

http://ww.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19453 Anti Christian

http://www.acpr.org.il/cloakrm/clk117.html The Islamization of Bethlehem by Yassir Arafat

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50109 YMCA warned to vacate Hamas town

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20583 Persecuting the Holy Land's Christians ...

http://www.christiannewstoday.com/CWN_855.html "Palestinians" burn Christian village (Published - 2005)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/09/09/wmid09.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/09/09/ixworld.html 'Islamic mafia' accused of persecuting Holy Land Christians (09 2005)

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September, 2006

Muslim Palestinians attack Churches & News agency Catholic Palestinians downplay Muslim attacks on Christian ... http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=21317 Catholic Online, CA - JERUSALEM (CNS) – Christian Palestinians tried to downplay the significance of Muslim attacks on seven Christian churches in the West Bank and Gaza in ...

Palestinians attack more West Bank churches Reuters AlertNet http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L1761770.htm

Masked Palestinians Attack News AgencyAll Headline News - http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004911064 Jerusalem, Israel (AHN) - Masked Palestinians Tuesday stormed the central Gaza offices of the official Palestinian Authority news agency, WAFA, destroying all ...

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53574 January 2007, Nazareth Muslims: 'Islam will dominate the world', March through town described in New Testament as Jesus’ childhood home 'meant to intimidate Christians'

'Christians must accept Islamic rule' - Israel News, Ynetnews Ynet News: Militant leader in Gaza says missionaries will be 'dealt with harshly,' demands women wear headscarfs. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3414753,00.html -

israelinsider: Briefs: Gaza Jihadis justify attack on school ... Gaza Jihadis justify attack on school, blaming UN "Christian missionaries". By: israelinsider staff. Published: May 9, 2007 ... http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Briefs/11334.htm

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The ICEJ? That figures.

My cousins, staunchly conservative Christians, lived in Israel for many months and developed friendships with Arab Christians whose homes were taken by the government of Israel simply because they weren’t Jewish. That was the only reason given to them. No compensation, no recourse.

Personally, I take my evidence from the folks with no agenda.

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I also rather take my friends’ words with no agenda, like Muslim Arabs in Tel Aviv Yafo, that won in the Israeli court against Israeli Jews, this is the norm in Israeli courts to prefer Arabs rights over Jews.

[tabsternager]

Perhaps, then, you’ll take Henry Hyde’s word for it:

Henry Hyde’s Plea
By Robert Novak

WASHINGTON — Rep. Henry Hyde, showing the courage that has typified a political career now in its final months, is pleading the case of endangered Palestinian Christians to President Bush. A faithful supporter of Israel over many years, Hyde said in a letter sent Friday to the White House: “I cannot be blind when Israeli actions seem to go beyond the realm of legitimate security concerns and have negative consequences on communities and lands under their occupation.” He urged the president to take up this issue with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on his Washington visit this week.

Hyde, chairman of the House International Relations Committee, sent along with his letter a five-page, single-spaced report prepared by his staff based on visits to Israel and Palestine over the past two years. It contends “the Christian community is being crushed in the mill of the bitter Israeli-Palestinian conflict.” The Israeli security wall and expanding Jewish settlements in the West Bank, the report continues, “are irreversibly damaging the dwindling Christian community.”

This issue was not on the agenda of the Bush-Olmert talks. There is no sign that Bush studied the House report or even that it made its way through an unsympathetic National Security Council staff into his hands. But Hyde’s concern is shared by important members of the Roman Catholic hierarchy. Archbishop Pietro Sambi, the new papal nuncio in Washington, represented the Vatican in Jerusalem the past eight years and realizes the plight of the Christians there. So does Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, the retiring archbishop of Washington, D.C., who recently went to the Holy Land to experience conditions there firsthand.

Hyde has been trying to get the Bush administration’s — and the world’s — attention since 2004, when he wrote Secretary of State Colin Powell expressing concern about Israeli policy. In 2005, Hyde took up the issue personally with Israeli Vice Premier Shimon Peres. At age 82, in his 32nd and last year in Congress, he is making what may be his final effort to get the president interested in what happens to less than 2 percent of Israel’s population.

Since his letter to Powell two years ago, Hyde wrote Bush last Friday, “the situation has significantly worsened.” While backing Israel’s “need to defend itself,” he called it “important that United States support for Israel not be perceived as involving the affirmation of injustice.”

Hyde’s committee report employs stronger language than the congressman had used previously. It calls for insistence that Israel “honor its pledge to stop settlement expansion” and suggests the security barrier is “a pretext for annexing territory.”

The report rejects the widespread impression that the Olmert regime really is abandoning the West Bank and disbanding the settlements. The report says “the Bethlehem area is home to over 20 Israeli settlements and there are plans to build more. The settlements in the barrier completely encircle the Christian triangle of Bethlehem, Beit Jala and Beit Sahour (Shepherds’ Field).” While causing housing and land shortages, “this construction physically obstructs the Bethlehem community from its spiritual, cultural and economic lifeline in Jerusalem.”

Furthermore, the report contends “fundamentalist” settlers in East Jerusalem “intend to establish their own brand of Jewish exclusivity” and have “Messianic aspirations on the Temple Mount.” That “undermines” the stability of Jerusalem as a future shared capital of Israel and Palestine, which is described as “vital” to U.S. interests in a two-state Israeli-Palestinian solution.

Even as the new Israeli prime minister arrived in Washington, his government was taking unilateral steps affecting Palestine. On Sunday, it was announced in Israel that the Defense Ministry had approved expansion of four settlements in the West Bank. On Tuesday, the Israeli Supreme Court approved a security wall route running between Beit Arieh, Ofarim and the village of Aboud, an early center of Christianity.

“It would be helpful,” says the Hyde report, “if the United States Government committed itself to working with the Israeli government to end support for and prevent the establishment of new realities on the ground, which complicate a negotiated solution over Jerusalem, destroy its multicultural identity and constitute an increase in the political volatility of the city.” But will George W. Bush be that helpful?

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Oh, Robert Novak a notorious anti Israel bigot, I stooped as soon as I saw his name... What else? I thought you knew "personal friends" with some "story".

BTW You should know that buying anti Israel propaganda hinders all Christians, after all, Islamists [radicals] & their apologists see ALL OF US (Judea/Christians and westerners as a whole) as one, like it or not.

Yes, many of the Arab "christians" would rather defend an Arab Muslim than a White Christian, Do you now why?

Unlike Arab [real] Christian heroes like: Walid Shoebat and Joseph Farah.

[tabsternager]

It was a letter from Henry Hyde. I suppose, because Hyde was critical of Israel, that makes him a “bigot” too.

You’re very typical and I knew that was coming from you — anybody who criticizes the government of Israel is labeled a “bigot” or “jew hater” by people who idolize the state of Israel to the point of believing they’re “holy.” Pure idolatry.

And, yes, I do have a personal friend and my cousins who lived in Israel for years and have seen it happen with their own eyes. They wouldn’t lie about that. And so that’s why I believe well-known, respected people like Henry Hyde when they talk about the discrimination and demolition of private property perpetrated by the Israeli government. My cousins’ friends lost their homes to the Israeli government with absolutely no recourse simply because they weren’t the “right ethnicity.” I only hope it’s gotten better in recent years over there, but according to Hyde’s letter, it hasn’t.

I support Israel’s right to exist, but I don’t believe in their sainthood, as you seem to; so I don’t just swallow their propaganda, as you also apparently do.

[rmlew]

Everyone has lost property due to immanent domain in Israel.
However, Arab Christians disproportionately own property. Hence they will have property bought by the government.
They scream bigotry because it buys them allies and because Arab nationalism is their protection against Muslims.

[rmlew]

Hyde allowed himself to be used by a bunch of leftists and Arab nationalists, as well as theologican anti-Zionists/anti-Semites.
He did not bother to check his facts after hearing agitprop.

As a theological anti-Zionist, you are no better

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Jews still lose in courts to Arabs over land in Israel - THEIR Historic and Biblical land.