FDA attempting to regulate supplements, herbs and juices as "drugs"

Newstarget ^ | 4/13/2007 | Mike Adams

[wolfcreek]

Yet another *Big Gov* intrusion in the private lives of American citizens. Corp lobbyist in motion.

[djf]

Most people don’t understand what’s happening.

I’ve read CFR articles where they describe how world government will be instituted.

It won’t be with guns or bombs.

It will be by making the laws in all the countries so similar that for all intents and purposes, there is no difference between them. That’s why they tried to amend the patent laws. That’s why they’re trying to worldwide standardize the drug laws.
Thats probably why they are screwing with the bankruptcy laws.

[wolfcreek]

NWO/NAU

All under the guise of the free flow of goods and services.

[Quix]

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[Wormwood]

Corp lobbyist in motion.

Actually, the corporate lobbyists already bought the legislation they wanted when they were able to keep herbal supplement snake oil from the FDA's authority in the '90s.

[Quix]

BTTT

[Quix]

Do you love the Post Office, Amtrack, . . . too?

The internet saved more pets lives than any regulatory body.

BIG GOVERNMENT IS NOT A FREEPER PREFERENCE by a long shot.

[Wormwood]

I wasn't posting a preference, just a clarification.

I couldn't care less how many gullible idiots get sick or die from the next 'ephedra'

[Quix]

I care about gullible idiots. I just don’t think the FDA is a wonderful protector.

Thanks for your kind reply.

[Quix]

INDEED.

THE ENCHROACHING STRAIGHT JACKETS . . . OF THE GLOBAL ASSYLUM . . . RAN BY THE CHIEF DEMONIC CRAZIES.

[the OlLine Rebel]

“If they get their way, YOU WILL NEED A PRESCRIPTION FOR VITAMIN C!!!!”

Thank you for calling it “snake oil”. As 1 who has been surfing health boards for a year with medical problems, I’ve seen constantly people desperately seeking “cures” or at least help (amazing how snake-oil people always say it’s a “cure”) with “natural” (so is hemlock) remedies.

In some ways I’m against the FDA but others for it. I think drugs are very important to watch over.

I think most of the “natural remedies” aren’t so much dangerous as a major rip-off.

People whine about “drug companies” having some “monopoly” and getting all the “big bucks”, but amazing they NEVER think about the huge profits (not that that’s bad) gleaned by these “natural” producers - THEY HAVE NO RESEARCH TO DO, so they make a good deal of money bilking people.

Anyway, back to the quoted line:
Where does it say you’ll need a prescription for Vitamin C?

You don’t need a prescription for Bayer aspirin. It’s off-the-shelf. Not all regulated drugs are “prescription only”.

Scare tactics.

[Quix]

Scare tactics.
= = =

Yes and no.

Also basic human nature with bureaucracies to take more and more and more power.

I’m increaingly libertarian when it comes to regulations and regulatory bodies—especially at the Federal level.

The drug companies and the FDA COULD have done a LOT more to enhance available compounds and supplements that are effective etc. Money still talks and sways lawmakers all kinds of ways.

[Quix]

BTTT

[djf]

Read this.

http://www.thenhf.com/articles_27.htm

[the OlLine Rebel]

You didn’t thoroughly read my post.

“Natural” (so is hemlock and snake venom) so-called “cures” may not be as bad as some drugs can be. (But then, they are not regulated to ensure best potency, thus better enabling rip-offs.) But real drugs are researched for usefullness. And they’re regulated to ensure both the best safety possible AND that you’re not getting ripped off with low-concentration recipes.

These “natural” boondoggles are just that - boondoggles. Major rip-offs.

And sometimes, they ruin your health.

Anyone that says something will cure all or at least even relieve all is full of it. That’s common with this nonsense.

www.quackwatch.com/

[Quix]

Thanks much.

BTTT

[djf]

Well, in fact most “natural” cures or supplements have been very, very researched.

I’ve looked at the PUBMED abstracts for dozens of natural type remedies, like St. Johns Wort, Echinacea, etc.

In ALMOST EVERY case, you find that the herb/supplement DOES HAVE SOME EFFICACY.

I don’t sell anything and I’m not in it for the money. But I DO take supplements, and can feel the difference if I miss a few days.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Some things DO work. What do you think is behind many, many “drugs”? They are all natural, at heart.

“Research” my foot. Check it again. Maybe only incidental research by real scientists and doctors. They aren’t AT ALL like real “drugs”.

You’re not even guaranteed you’re getting the same (useful) concentration, even within the very same “product” of the same brand!

Some things help, but they are not nearly all helpful and they aren’t researched SERIOUSLY nor ensured to be of proper concentration.

Again, as most of these things do, anything that claims to solve XXXX myriad of problems is full of it.

It’s a rip-off at least, and sometimes it’s dangerous, even if maybe rarely.

[Wallace T.]

The vitamin and supplement industry has its share of snake oil salesmen, no doubt. All you have to do is to listen to the vitamin and supplement infomercials AM talk radio stations play on weekends to develop skepticism regarding these claims. OTOH, some vitamins and supplements probably do some good in many cases, although it would seem that a pharmaceutical targeted to, say, depression, would be more effective than an herb like St. John’s Wort. Nevertheless, health care decisions should be made by the individual, and not government. The FDA, an agency that is unconstitutional, should be abolished and the market, not some Beltway bureaucrat, should make the decisions on health care matters.