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Deliberately Disabling Children
RightBias ^ | 3-30-07 | Joseph D'Agostino

Posted on 03/30/2007 3:48:55 PM PDT by nancyvideo

For a number of years now, a great deal of discussion has taken place among scientists and in the popular media about the genetic engineering of children.

Will it soon be possible, for prices widely affordable at least to the upper-middle class, to guarantee that children have a high IQ, or excellent athletic ability, or be over 6 feet tall, or have blond hair and blue eyes?

Is it right to commodify children in this way, and have parents choosing options as they do with cars?

And wouldn’t it be boring to live in a world someday where almost everyone is extremely intelligent and beautiful? Variety, or even the politically correct term “diversity,” is the spice of life.

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To: KantianBurke
How about ensuring that a family history of high blood pressure isn't past down? These people are luddites who would feel right at home with those who attacked Jenner when he first burst on the scene.

Exactly right. How can preventing the carrying on of known congenital defects to a new generation be a bad thing?

If I can prevent cystic fibrosis, manic depression, cycle cell anemia, and other known inheritable diseases from passing on consider the benefits to my family and to the human race. If you have the means available to you how can you in good conscience choose not to give your child the best available start in life namely good health?

With in two or three generations these diseases could be history. I can not imagine families who have suffered the pain of these diseases not wanting to prevent them from being passed to their children.

Selecting the best available genes for your children has always been part of human nature. Technology has simply caught up with natural proclivity.

21 posted on 03/30/2007 4:44:36 PM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
There was an article in the WaPo about 2 years ago about a deaf lesbian couple who purposely used semen from a deaf donor so as to produce a deaf child. The article described their absolute joy when they discovered he was 75% deaf in one ear and 95% in the other and were insulted when the doctor suggested they take measures to preserve the little hearing remaining in the one ear. Disgusting.

Child abuse. These people shouldn't be parents.

22 posted on 03/30/2007 4:49:53 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: nancyvideo

It is horrifying that some parents would deliberately disable their children. I mean what could be more cruel than teaching a kid to be a lib?


23 posted on 03/30/2007 5:03:05 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: nancyvideo
And wouldn’t it be boring to live in a world someday where almost everyone is extremely intelligent and beautiful? Variety, or even the politically correct term “diversity,” is the spice of life.

Great, so feel free to avoid any technology that might make your children smarter, healthier, and more attractive. Tell them as they grow up that their lives could have been better and happier but you felt that taking the steps necessary to do so would have deprived you of "the spice of life". And receive the contempt from them that your selfishness deserves.

But of course, Luddites aren't satisfied with practicing their backwardness themselves. They want the rest of us to share in it - hence the need to write articles like this.
24 posted on 03/30/2007 5:30:25 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: John Williams
The mutts are usually the strongest and most virile of the species.

Amateurs and barn hobbyists breeding pets for show winning looks inevitably create lines with serious hereditary health problems. Scientific breeding as practiced in the agriculture industry is only superficially similar. The primary focus in farming is on higher production of course, but the same techniques that have dairy cows producing 10 times the milk they did 50 years ago could just as well create the strongest and most virile bulls to ever walk the earth.

25 posted on 03/30/2007 5:33:18 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: nancyvideo
That's a great article. Should be read more widely.

I had no idea that 3% of all the screenings were in favor of children with disabilities. Personally, I would outlaw all the genetic screenings if I could.
26 posted on 03/30/2007 5:56:28 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: CGTRWK
The primary focus in farming is on higher production of course, but the same techniques that have dairy cows producing 10 times the milk they did 50 years ago could just as well create the strongest and most virile bulls to ever walk the earth.

Belgian Blues are genetically double-muscled. They reach 1800-2000 lbs at two years of age. A boy was born in Germany a few years ago with the same mutation (aka Superboy).


27 posted on 03/30/2007 6:04:44 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: merry10; dmw; RoosterRe; Cinnamon Girl; MinorityRepublican; patriot_wes; SweetCaroline; ...

Deaf/HoH ping


28 posted on 03/30/2007 6:17:28 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: nancyvideo
I thought this was about the case up here where a couple is accused of getting their kid diagnosed with one of the alphabet disabilities to get an extra crazy check, then over prescribing the kid to death.

That case wasn't really any surprise to me. Generations of welfare people have been purposely bringing children into the world, just to collect a check, so why not go a step further and maximize their returns?

This line from the article scared me:

And wouldn’t it be boring to live in a world someday where almost everyone is extremely intelligent and beautiful?

If it weren't for stupid people, I wouldn't have a job.

I NEED STUPID PEOPLE, LOL (as long as they have jobs)

29 posted on 03/30/2007 6:22:05 PM PDT by David_G_Burnet (My other ID is in the shop)
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To: CGTRWK

"could just as well create the strongest and most virile bulls to ever walk the earth."

Happens every day - Mr. Bull meet Mr. Electroejaculator.

"Better breeding through technology."

;-)


31 posted on 03/30/2007 6:58:00 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Did you have to post that (not blaming you of course)?

The most amoral selfish people I have heard about in awhile.


There must be a special place in hell...


32 posted on 03/30/2007 9:09:01 PM PDT by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Stupid argument. If they had been genetically engineered they would be completely different people.


33 posted on 03/30/2007 9:13:30 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Thompson/Watts in 2008!! Fear the Fred!! FreeRepublic is FRed country!!)
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Pingout tomorrow.

Just another form of eugenics. Trying to create "perfect" people.


34 posted on 03/30/2007 9:34:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: nancyvideo

here's the thing...no matter how much they tinker with IQ or with "looks" - have they found a way to "make" people better people?
I'm talking about people who are decent, honest, compassionate people.

There are plenty of "disable" folks with broken bodies who are great assets to this world because they are good people.

There are plenty of healthy smart folks who are jerks.

So it comes down to "who" defines what perfection is and why is it beneficial.

Concentrating on how people look has given us the unnatural Hollywood culture. yuck.

concentrating on IQ still does not address personality and morals.

So even if one can determine that this particular fetus has spina bifida and - my goodness, how awful, we must abort!

No one really thinks about the perfectly formed bodies that will eventually grow up to be the bore at all the parties bragging about his salary.


35 posted on 03/30/2007 9:41:04 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Politicalmom
Stupid argument. If they had been genetically engineered they would be completely different people.

Genetic engineering will involve the introduction of manipulated genes into living organisms - conceivably into adults, as in gene therapy. This will not make them "completely different people" in the sense you seem to think, though the change might be enough to make their lives completely different.
36 posted on 03/30/2007 9:41:55 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

"Great, so feel free to avoid any technology that might make your children smarter, healthier, and more attractive."

I've found that things that come at no cost are rarely appreciated. Could be it's best for children to be left alone to concentrate on developing whichever attributes they feel are important. As we see by this current 'me' generation, the results of giving your child everything can be quite negative...IMHO: Take a clue from China and don't mess with Mother Nature.


37 posted on 03/31/2007 2:39:34 AM PDT by nancyvideo (nancyvideo)
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To: SoftballMominVA

It was longer ago than that. The only problem I really have with it is that there are deaf children in the US they could have adopted. It's only disgusting, IMHO, that they had to do in vitro when plently of deaf kids need homes. If you don't know any deaf people, then I would not expect their joy to be understood. I am sure you have characteristics that you have, maybe you have gorgeous hair of 20/20 vision - that you want your kids to inherit. This is very similar.


38 posted on 03/31/2007 8:55:52 AM PDT by merry10
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To: John Williams

Sorry, but I just don't see my kid who is deaf as defective. I know many many deaf people, and many deaf children who have other issues. And none of them are defective.

Selfishness. They want their kids to be of their likeness, right down to the genetic defects.

"....and you will be like gods.." indeed.


39 posted on 03/31/2007 8:57:43 AM PDT by merry10
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To: John Williams

Please come to my house and meet my miserable kid. Please.


40 posted on 03/31/2007 9:03:07 AM PDT by merry10
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