Posted on 03/17/2007 3:37:58 AM PDT by Sam Hill
Before we put Plame "leak" story to bed once and for all, I want to reiterate out what I first posited almost two years ago, which now seems to be more true than ever.
It was almost certainly Mr. Joseph C. Wilson IV who "outed" his wife as a CIA officer.
And he probably did this in early May 2003 at after meeting with top level Democrats and around the time he began to work for the John Kerry for President campaign.
Let's run through the chronology.
January 28, 2003: President George W. Bush gave his State of the Union speech.
February 6, 2003: Joe Wilson wrote an editorial for the Los Angeles Times, A 'Big Cat' With Nothing to Lose, in which he claimed we should not attack Saddam Hussein because he will use his weapons of mass destruction on our troops and give them to terrorists.
February 28, 2003: Joe Wilson is interviewed by Bill Moyers. Wilson agrees with Bush's SOTU remarks, and reiterates his belief that Saddam has WMD.There is now no incentive for Hussein to comply with the inspectors or to refrain from using weapons of mass destruction to defend himself if the United States comes after him.
And he will use them; we should be under no illusion about that.
MOYERS: President Bush's recent speech to the American Enterprise Institute, he said, let me quote it to you. "The danger posed by Saddam Hussein and his weapons cannot be ignored or wished away." You agree with that?
WILSON: I agree with that. Sure.
MOYERS: "The danger must be confronted." You agree with that? "We would hope that the Iraqi regime will meet the demands of the United Nations and disarm fully and peacefully. If it does not, we are prepared to disarm Iraq by force. Either way, this danger will be removed. The safety of the American people depends on ending this direct and growing threat." You agree with that?
WILSON: I agree with that. Sure. The President goes on to say in that speech as he did in the State of the Union Address is we will liberate Iraq from a brutal dictator. All of which is true. But the only thing Saddam Hussein hears in this speech or the State of the Union Address is, "He's coming to kill me. He doesn't care if I have weapons of mass destruction or not. His objective is to come and overthrow my regime and to kill me." And that then does not provide any incentive whatsoever to disarm.
March 3, 2003: Joe Wilson wrote a piece for the Nation, Republic Or Empire. In it Wilson blasts the "neo-conservatives" in the Bush administration for their imperial over-reach. But he makes no mention of uranium or any other suggestion that Bush misled the country or lied about Iraq's WMD.
Then what's the point of this new American imperialism? The neoconservatives with a stranglehold on the foreign policy of the Republican Party, a party that traditionally eschewed foreign military adventures, want to go beyond expanding US global influence to force revolutionary change on the region. American pre-eminence in the Gulf is necessary but not sufficient for the hawks. Nothing short of conquest, occupation and imposition of handpicked leaders on a vanquished population will suffice. Iraq is the linchpin for this broader assault on the region. The new imperialists will not rest until governments that ape our worldview are implanted throughout the region, a breathtakingly ambitious undertaking, smacking of hubris in the extreme.
March 8, 2003: CNN’s Renay San Miguel interviewed Joe Wilson about the so-called Niger forgeries.
SAN MIGUEL: So how do you play this, then? I mean, what, do you admit it, do you just move on? Do you try to get these things verified if you do believe, indeed, that Iraq was trying to buy this material from Niger? I mean, how do you handle this? What’s the damage control on this?WILSON: I have no idea. I’m not in the government. I would not want to be doing damage control on this. I think you probably just fess up and try to move on and say there’s sufficient other evidence to convict Saddam of being involved in the nuclear arms trade.
So up until at least March 8, 2003 Joe Wilson still contended that Saddam had WMD and that he was involved in the nuclear arms trade. Then what happened?
May 2003: Joe Wilson began to "advise" the Kerry for President campaign.
Wilson ... said he has long been a Kerry supporter and has contributed $2,000 to the campaign this year. He said he has been advising Kerry on foreign policy for about five months and will campaign for Kerry, including a trip to New Hampshire... -- David Tirrell-Wysocki, "Former Ambassador Wilson Endorses Kerry In Presidential Race,'' The Associated Press, 10/23/03
Five months prior to October 2, 2003 would be May 2, 2003. What happened on that date?
May 2, 2003: Joe Wilson and Valerie attended a conference sponsored by the Senate Democratic Policy Committee, at which Wilson spoke about Iraq. One of the other panelists was the New York Times journalist Nicholas Kristof
Here, unlike his remarks to CNN on March 8, 2003, Wilson claimed State Department officials should have known better than to have been duped by the forged documents that allegedly had proved a deal for uranium had been in the works between Iraq and Niger.
May 3, 2003: Over breakfast the next morning with Kristof and his wife Valerie Plame, Wilson told Kristof about his trip to Niger...
(Excerpt) Read more at Sweetness & Light ...
That's exactly what I was thinking, sleuth, as I was reading that list of organizations... any connections to the Mary McCarthy/Dana Priest cabal??
I only recognize James Zogby's name.
* Nihad Awad Executive Director of CAIR ; Former public relations director for the Islamic Association of Palestine (IAP) A palestinian born in Jordan and now a U.S. Citizen. " I am in support of the Hamas movement." ---------Nihad Awad 12 posted on 07/06/2003 7:01:25 AM PDT by joesnuffy
JANUARY 2006 : (CAIR JOINS LAWSUIT AGAINST THE NSA - See AL QAEDA, RABIH HADDAD) In January 2006, CAIR joined a lawsuit against the National Security Agency demanding that the U.S. intelligence agency cease monitoring communications with suspected Islamist terrorists. Part of its complaints concerned a belief that the U.S. government monitored its [CAIR's] communications with Rabih Haddad, the suspected Al-Qaeda financier who has since moved to Lebanon.[54] Upon learning that CAIR was a fellow plaintiff in the suit, political writer Christopher Hitchens said, "I was revolted to see who I was in company with. CAIR is a lot to swallow."[55] --------- The New York Sun, Jan. 18, 2006 via "CAIR: Islamists Fooling the Establishment ," by Daniel Pipes and Sharon Chadha, MEF News, SPRING 2006
The power of propagandists, rinos and 'rats to AMPLIFY these liars and to disregard any of the comments/facts presented here, shows you what we are up against.
Thanks Sam Hill and piasa! OUTSTANDING FReepers BUMP! Thanks to all contributors to this thread.
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I saw an article this morning that I followed from Lucianne's links, but can't find now....
Hillary had lunch with Joe and Val in Washington recently. I think it was a Novak column....
Those three should be tied up firmly together. They are certainly birds of a feather, and publicly connects Hillary to the VIPS crew.
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...and now Ms. Plame-Wilson has a book to sell, so we can expect to see her mug on every talk show from here to Kalamazoo.
Hopefully her "fifteen minutes" will be up soon, and she can slink back into the shadows.
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Interesting. I've also heard some speculation that Mary McCarthy is the one who got Joe Wilson hired for his trip to Niger. The link is here:
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005048.htm
28 posted on 04/22/2006 5:11:21 PM PDT by 68skylark
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Shouldn't Dana Priest disclose the fact that her husband, the anti-war activist is William Goodfellow, Executive Director, (CIP) Center for International Policy?!
"Unbiased media alert"...
In 2003 Wilson began to support and formally endorsed John Kerry for president, donated $2,000 to his campaign, and served as an advisor to and speechwriter for the campaign in 2003 and 2004.[17] He has made contributions to the campaigns of Democratic candidates, such as Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts and Congressman Charles B. Rangel of New York, and to Republican Congressman Ed Royce of California.[18]
After the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Wilson supported activist groups like Win Without War, a nonpartisan coalition of groups united in opposition to the Iraq War, has been quoted in the organization's press releases, and has been attacked by conservatives for such anti-war activism.[19] Nevertheless, according to an article to which Scott Shane and Lynette Clemetson contributed, published in the New York Times: "Despite conservatives' efforts to portray him as a left-wing extremist, [Wilson] insisted he remained a centrist at heart. But after his tangle with the current administration, he admits 'it will be a cold day in hell before I vote for a Republican, even for dog catcher.'"[20]
Wilson endorses Veterans for a Secure America (VSA).
In the book, Wilson claims that "after the South Carolina primary," he made a donation to the Gore campaign and joined his foreign policy group. In fact, Wilson had donated his $1,000 to the Bush campaign nearly a year before the South Carolina primary and in the weeks prior to that donation gave $2,000 to Al Gore and $1,000 to Ted Kennedy. Plame had also donated $1,000 to Gore's campaign in 1999, using her married name "Valerie Wilson" and listing her employment as an "analyst" with Brewster-Jennings & Associates, a CIA front. As to his working for both Gore and Foley, both prominent Democrats, Wilson writes that off to "happenstance."
As a private citizen, Wilson reports that he made three trips to Niger, a landlocked hellhole in the Sahara, culminating the fateful trip of February 2002. The only reason he cites for his first trip in 1998 was to "participate in a cultural festival," at best a half-truth.
It was in 1999, according to the Senate Intelligence Committee report, that Plame first recommended her husband be sent on a fact-finding trip to Niger. Wilson "was selected for the 1999 trip," reads the report, "after his wife mentioned to her supervisors that her husband was planning a business trip to Niger in the near future and might be willing to use his contacts in the region."
In his book, however, Wilson claims that he went at the request of a former prime minister to give a "crash course" to a new president who had just taken power after the murder of his predecessor. He makes no mention of Plame or the CIA. The story changes in the preface to the paperback version with Wilson now claiming he went to Niger in 1999 "at the request of the CIA to look into other uranium-related matters." He does not offer specifics on the mission or on Plame's involvement.
Although little is clear about this 1999 trip to Niger, the rationale for sending Wilson seems no more sinister than a fortuitous bit of nepotism. Wilson's clients had interests in that part of the world, and Wilson's traveling on behalf of the CIA had to enhance his business credentials and, ideally, the Wilsons' income.
"As an employee of the CIA, Valerie could have NO CONTACT with the media WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL"...
Wilson makes a stunning admission to Vanity Fair that has been heretofore overlooked. He tells the reporter that in May 2003 he and Plame had attended a conference sponsored by the Senate Democratic Policy Committee at which he spoke about Iraq. On his panel was Kristof of the Times. Over breakfast "with Kristof and his wife," Wilson told Kristof about the Niger trip and said he "could write about it, but not name him." If "his wife" refers not to Kristof's wife but to Plame, which it almost assuredly does, Wilson has implicated Plame in a serious transgression. "As an employee of the CIA," he writes in the preface to the paperback, "she could have no contact with the press without prior approval."
http://tinyurl.com/yt9ygx
"Hillary had lunch with Joe and Val in Washington recently. I think it was a Novak column.... Those three should be tied up firmly together. They are certainly birds of a feather, and publicly connects Hillary to the VIPS crew."
Of course Wilson/Plame gave money to Hillpac in 2002.
He/they have been a supporter of hers for years.
thanks and bump...
""As an employee of the CIA," he writes in the preface to the paperback, "she could have no contact with the press without prior approval.""
And Plame's meeting with Kristof is only one of several meetings with reporters for which she had no approval.
As mentioned in the chronology, she also met with the Washington Post's Lieby and/or Pincus on the Fourth of July in 2003.
All of these meeting are security violations, and very much the kind of questions Plame would face from her regularly scheduled polygraphs.
In fact, it might be this rather than her claimed "post-partum" depression that brought about her subsequent year-long unpaid leave from the CIA.
You would think it if was for "depression" the CIA would have given her medical leave. But they didn't.
Hillary Clinton Dines With Valerie Plame, Joe Wilson
By Robert Novak
Mar 17, 2007
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton raised eyebrows among Democratic insiders when Washington Post columnist Al Kamen reported that she dined last week at the 701 restaurant in downtown Washington with former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, his wife, Valerie Plame, and left-wing journalist Sidney Blumenthal.
http://tinyurl.com/2wumke
Some Joe Wilson quotes:
"Drive a stake through the heart of every single neoconservative, if that's what it takes"
"When the Democrats take control of congress, their first order of business needs to be crushing the neoconservativers out of power in every foreign policy arena. Drive a damn stake through the heart of every single one of them, whatever it takes."
"Zalmay Khalilzad? I'd like to punch him right in the face. I've never seen met him and I'd prefer never to see his face but yeah. He has never been right about one thing in 20 years. He is simply another neoconservative that has gotten every single thing wrong."
http://tinyurl.com/hw3d3
And of course like most of the far left, when Joe Wilson says "neo-conservative" he means Jew.
Joe Wilson calls himself a business agent for unnamed "African mining companies." We can reasonably guess that he made those contacts during his several postings in Francophone West Africa, possibly when he was Ambassador to Gabon, another former French colony, at the culmination of his State Department career.
Wilson claims credit for persuading Bill Clinton to make a heavily hyped trip to French Africa, tossing millions of US aid dollars to the local dictatorships, including, possibly, some of Wilson's friends. So Wilson apparently works as a consultant for French—owned mining companies in Africa, which would allow him to be openly paid by those companies.
http://tinyurl.com/32lvhe
In October 2003, [Wilson] added a messianic quality to his rhetoric, suggesting that “neo-conservatives and religious conservatives have hijacked this administration and I consider myself on a personal mission to destroy both.”
FrontPage magazine.com :: Wilson’s House of Lies
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20082
Great research on this thread!
Thanks for thinking of me pinz :-)
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