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Jeffress read a stipulation. WINPAC is a center within CIA. The records of CIA show that Valerie Wilson did not work for nor was she detailed to WINPAC in 2003 or at any other time.
Another sidebar. It's going to be one of those dayssidebar after sidebar punctuated by a few laughs.
TESTIMONY OF JOHN HANNA (You will love the editorializing in this one):
One more note: in (dis)honor of John Hannah's bellicose statements of late, I will not follow my normal practice of referring to witnesses by their initials. Instead, I will refer to him as "The Year of Iran."
Cline up, C and The Year of Iran
The Year of Iran: John Hannah, I work at OVP, currently VP's NSA. Advising VP on all matters concerning national security, foreign policy, writing an awful lot of memos for him.
C When begin duties as NSA
The Year of Iran End of October 2005. Mr Libby preceded.
C When Libby had position as NSA, did you work with him
The Year of Iran Very closely
C What was your position
The Year of Iran I served as Mr Libby's principal deputy for Nat Security Affairs, prior to that responsibility for Middle East.
C Describe duties then
The Year of Iran Trying to keep Mr. Libby and through him VP informed on all matters relating to foreign policy in ME
C Can you give us sense, unclassified level, on those issues
The Year of Iran Iraq, Iran, palestinian, Saudi Arabia, AQ My responsibilities touched on all those areas.
C Other deputies
The Year of Iran He certainly had a principal deputy, Eric Edelman, two other, one responsible for Asia, one responsible for strategic planning.
C All reported to Libby, each had particular areas of responsibility, Libby responsible for all those areas. You mentioned Edelman. Do you recall that Edelman left on June 6, 2003
The Year of Iran Don't recall exact date, but that time frame.
C New principal deputy took rein in July 2003, who was that?
The Year of Iran Victoria Nuland
C During the time between, was there a principal deputy
The Year of Iran I took on the duties.
C You were short one deputy?
The Year of Iran That's correct.
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The Year of Iran Duke, Stanford, law degree at Yale. Entered govt in early 1991, worked for SOS Baker. In Policy planning, Asked to stay on in Clinton Admin, worked for SOS Christopher. Left for about a year, invited to come back by Christopher, stayed through 1996, left to get a law degree and start a family. Joined OVP in early 2001.
C May 2003 to March 2004, Libby's titles
The Year of Iran COS, NSA Advisor, Asst to Pres
C You're currently NSA Advisor, full time job?
The Year of Iran Yes
C Addington COS, full time job?
The Year of Iran Looks like it to me.
C Fair to say Libby had two full time jobs.
The Year of Iran From my perspective, yes.
C Daily info flow?
The Year of Iran 10-12 advisors in my office, constantly streaming through 100s if not 1000s pieces of info on nat security matters. I've got an active set of meetings, either with foreign officials or govt officials. Try to support VP in his meetings.
C You find it challenging? Overwhelming?
The Year of Iran It can be, yes.
C How well did Libby remember things.
The Year of Iran On certain things Scooter had an awful memory.
The Year of Iran Times too many to count, I'd come into Scooter in the morning, I'd give my views, give an analysis, show up 6 hours later that evening, have Scooter repeat back to me the recommendations I told him that morning. It was very striking.
C WOuld you call that to his attention.
The Year of Iran I did once, in exasperation, but that was Mr Libby.
C Did he maintain files when NSA?
The Year of Iran He maintained them through his own assistant.
C Volume of files.
The Year of Iran Several person-size safes filled with top to bottom with materials.
C Safes would hold classified materials.
The Year of Iran Those were the only files I'd have recognition of, since they were housed in the suite where I maintained an office.
C If Libby had files elsewhere you would not be familiar.
C Typical work day for Libby.
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C How begin day
The Year of Iran MIB with the Vice President
C What time?
The Year of Iran 6:30-7 in the morning, often held at VP residence.
C On days in town, what then.
The Year of Iran Join motorcade into WH, join a senior staff meeting, return to office, deputies have time with him, begin to brief him, alert him to issues.
C Fair to say Libby's time consumed with meetings
The Year of Iran YES (emphatic), he would have in any single week had multiple meetings, Deputies committees,
C I'll take you through each. What you and I will be talking about has to do with his responsibilities as NSA.
The Year of Iran Best knowledge i had, I was often aware of other meetings, on domestic policy issues.
C His COS responsibilities not a matter you concerned yourself with, let's talk about some of these meetings, Was Libby one of the Deputies who attended these meetings? Issues Deputies committee deal with.
The Year of Iran High importance to US, where decisions need to be made, full panoply of issues, every region of the world, as well as WMD and terrorism, economics and trade?
C Deputies deals with every major foreign policy issue
The Year of Iran Anything that is on its way to being decided.
C How often would DC meet?
The Year of Iran 45 minutes-hour. Multiple times in a single week. Sometimes several DC in a single day.
C Did you from time to time attend with Libby.
The Year of Iran Each agency would have the back bencher.
C DCs often involved strongly worded exchange of views. [translation, did Libby fight with State?] Fair to say Libby "held his own."
The Year of Iran Very active participant in those meetings.
C Customary way to prepare?
The Year of Iran For each meeting, someone on staff would draft a memo for him based on background materials.
TYOI Certainly times his schedule too full, he didn't read everything.
C Sometimes in a rush get a memo before a meeting
TYOI Sometimes even IN the meeting. He'd be briefed before a meeting if we thought something important was going to happen.
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