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Why I Support Rudy (Part I)
Red State Org ^ | 1 Feb 2008 | Dan McLaughlin

Posted on 02/01/2007 11:25:11 AM PST by PhiKapMom

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To: Emmett McCarthy
Pro-Illegal Immigration

As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:

"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."

That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:

"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."

If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE OF GIULIANI'S LEFT-WING POLITICAL POSITIONS

61 posted on 02/01/2007 6:30:01 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: Tarheel
Tuesday, June 20, 2000 MAYOR GIULIANI AND SPEAKER VALLONE ANNOUNCE CITY LAWSUIT AGAINST GUN INDUSTRY
62 posted on 02/01/2007 6:31:27 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: PhiKapMom
... do have a variety of ties to Rudy...

'Nough said.

63 posted on 02/01/2007 6:35:39 PM PST by Barnacle (Where's the wall? Where's the wall!?)
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To: Barnacle

LOL!!! You obviously didn't bother to read what those ties were.

Talk about getting desperate!


64 posted on 02/01/2007 6:43:12 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Keating -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: TommyDale

Hi TommyDale,

I would never vote for Rudi...and he won't be the nominee..
for the reasons you stated and others like the way he treated his ex wife....


65 posted on 02/01/2007 7:10:10 PM PST by aimee5291
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To: PhiKapMom
the crowd LOVED Rudy



66 posted on 02/01/2007 7:17:30 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: areafiftyone
"Again: Rudy's not the only seasoned executive in the race (Romney, Huckabee and Tommy Thompson come to mind), but his record is the most impressive and it's one that McCain and Brownback can't match.

"4. We Can Hold The Line In The Courts.

"Rudy's record on fiscal, economic, law enforcement and education issues, his battles against racial preferences and the city's relentless race hucksters, and his outspoken stance on the war on terror, are all the stuff that should excite conservatives about his candidacy. But what concerns people the most is his stance on social/family/sexual issues in general, and abortion in particular."

Bump!

67 posted on 02/01/2007 7:24:40 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Tuesday, June 20, 2000 MAYOR GIULIANI AND SPEAKER VALLONE ANNOUNCE CITY LAWSUIT AGAINST GUN INDUSTRY
68 posted on 02/01/2007 7:32:35 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: x
How many mayors endorse governors from the opposing party?

It was a practical consideration as everyone understood at the time. No one thought Pataki would win in '94: he was trailing by double-digits up to the night before the Election. Good mayors don't make enemies of governors if their cities depend on the state goverment's goodwill.

69 posted on 02/01/2007 8:10:06 PM PST by A Longer Name
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To: A Longer Name; x

Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.


70 posted on 02/01/2007 8:10:54 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: narses
Rudy's only selling point is that he would be less of a disaster than Hillary. I'm less than overwhelmed.

I hope he doesn't get the nomination. If he does, I'll vote for him, although I think there will be bad days ahead for this country.

71 posted on 02/02/2007 6:12:44 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: narses

Did you see the Family Research Council's collection of GOP poll data from the various groups?

Giuliani is toast when the base starts to learn his views.

Given every category, there wound up being more people who found Rudy entirely unacceptable. The more the base actually learns of his views, the harder he falls.

Name recognition only goes so far when all the issues are put on the line.


72 posted on 02/02/2007 9:04:59 AM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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