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NCIS Exposed:Criminals, Thugs, and Liars Bringing Down Marines
Defend Our Marines ^ | January 20, 2007 | David Allender

Posted on 01/20/2007 7:46:41 PM PST by RedRover

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To: governsleastgovernsbest

You might be interested in this. There's complete media amnesia about the King case and the questions it raises about trusting leaks from the NCIS.


41 posted on 01/21/2007 7:47:07 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

I know from experience that sometimes on a "heater" case that the field command ranks in the case of the military, the police chiefs in the case of law enforcement are pressured by politicians to get a criminal case closed and sent for prosecution. Sometimes a decision had already been made as to what the outcome of the criminal case should be. The investigators are "advised" that this is a case of "murder", "suicide", or fill in the blank_________, now go prove the outcome, which is exactly the opposite of what a thorough investigation should be.

Does the name Mike Nifong sound familiar?


Federally Mandated Lynching - The Lacrosse Rape Case
http://www.webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=walkerb&date=070121


42 posted on 01/21/2007 8:03:06 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Little_shoe; RedRover

Here's just a few of the NCIS abusive techniques used in their interrogation/prosecution. Amazingly, most of this only came to light when some interrogation tapes were accidently found by one of King's lawyers working on a seperate case.

"The intrusive, threatening, and illegal form of custody employed by these agents placed CTR1 King in a coercive and inescapable environment in which he was essentially subjected to custodial interrogation 24 hours a day seven days a week for 26 days. He would spend every waking minute with NCIS agents. They would wake him up in the morning, monitor him while he took a shower, take him to breakfast, take him to their office for interrogations, take him back to a safe house in the evening, monitor him while he slept, monitor his phone calls to his family, require that he obtain permission to call his daughters or mail a letter, and then start the process over again the next day. One agent told CTR1 King that he would shoot King if he tried to run away. Agents prominently displayed their firearms whenever they took CTR1 King outside the safe house. Agents made notes of everything CTR1 King might say that they felt they could later use in a prosecution, including expressions of hopelessness or fatigue at the process."

"In addition to depriving CTR1 King of sleep, the agents would threaten him and his family. During one interrogation, SA Hyter learned that CTR1 King is very close to his family, especially his daughters. He then told CTR1 King that he must come up with an explanation for his inability to pass the polygraph examination, or NCIS agents would be forced to interrogate his family in the same manner in which they were interrogating CTR1 King."

"At a later interrogation, SA Helen Sherry told CTR1 King the he must confess to espionage or "black operations" people would go after his family."

"According to NCIS reports, agents interviewed CTR1 King's former wife, his two daughters, sisters, and his brother-in-law "under the pretext of a routine background investigation." This was an outright lie. Even more troubling than these lies are the attempts by agents to interview CTR1 King's minor daughter, Melissa King, outside the presence of her mother. This happened after CTR1 King had been placed in the brig. At the time, Melissa was only 15 years old and living with her mother in Virginia Beach, Virginia. Mrs. Jill King had made it very clear to the agent, SA Kelly Murphy, that she did not want Melissa to be interviewed without Mrs. King's consent and presence. SA Murphy was undeterred. She attempted to meet Melissa after school before her mother got home. Melissa said she did not want to talk. SA Murphy eventually gave up when Mrs. King told her she would be contacting a lawyer about the harassment."

"Third, agents ignored CTR1 King's efforts to obtain an attorney. CTR1 King clearly asked for an attorney and the agents refused to let him have one."..." Apparently when CTR1 King asked if he could speak with a lawyer, SA Wilson responded, "the only way you are getting through this is through us. Besides what are they going to give you? Some [Navy] lieutenant or [Marine] Captain? I eat twenty of them for breakfast" or words to that effect."

"Once CTR1 King was placed in the brig and charges were preferred, NCIS provided reams of documentary evidence to the prosecution who in turn provided a copy to the defense. In a clear violation of national security law, NCIS agents decided to label every single document Secret."... "A few examples will suffice to demonstrate the absurdity of the classification of this material. The Secret documents included a photocopy of a birthday card and envelope that CTR1 King sent his daughter while he was held at the safehouse in Guam."... "The contents of CTR1 King's wallet were photocopied and labeled Secret, to include his Blockbuster video card, his ATM Card, his Ohio driver's license, his military identification card, and a discount card for the Food Lion supermarket. "

Link to Statement of Lt. Robert A. Bailey in RedRover's link above for the full text.


43 posted on 01/21/2007 8:05:33 AM PST by Girlene
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To: KeyLargo
In the Haditha Marine case, we have Congressman John Murtha directing the conclusion of the report. He said over and over that it was massacre, "there was no question about it", there was a cover-up, "no doubt about it", and everything he said was what "the report would show."

Murtha wanted publicity so he went public. To your point, Murtha's actions give us an unusual look at how a politician can direct the outcome of an "investigation".

44 posted on 01/21/2007 9:13:19 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover
CLEAN HOUSE AND PROSECUTE ALL THE GUILTY..........
45 posted on 01/21/2007 9:13:43 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Grimmy; lilycicero
In the 60 Minutes article that Girlene links above, Daniel King said...

"I never lost faith in the Navy," King says. "The Navy, to me, (is) those men and women that I served with. The people who did this are not the men and the women that I served with in the Navy.

"I love my country. I love the people that I served with. I loved my job and I would do it again," King adds.

Daniel King

46 posted on 01/21/2007 9:19:48 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: Girlene; pinkpanther111; lilycicero; jazusamo
Of course, all this only came to light because Jonathan Turley took the case. By their admission, the two JAGs who were appointed to King were inexperienced.

It's easy to see why the Powers That Be are hostile to civilian lawyers and to the defense funds that help pay for them. If King had played ball, the whole thing could have been wrapped up with a plea deal and no one would ever know the truth.

47 posted on 01/21/2007 9:37:43 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Amen.. And I am with you on trying to understand the why. People keep explaining it to me, i STILL do get it.


48 posted on 01/21/2007 9:44:08 AM PST by pinkpanther111 (They were doing their jobs!!! Defend our Marines)
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To: RedRover

Is it out of the question to ask King to bring up the past himself in lieu of what is going on with this NCIS misconduct?


49 posted on 01/21/2007 10:12:22 AM PST by lilycicero (I believe SSGT Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: RedRover

After reading about this it makes me wonder what they did to get to Dela Cruz.

Cindie


50 posted on 01/21/2007 11:17:15 AM PST by gardencatz (I raised a US Marine...I'm tougher than I thought!)
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To: RedRover

Seems like NCIS is using some of the same tactics as in the past:

Current investigation related to Hamdania Marines

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1768587/posts

NORTH COUNTY -- The investigative practices of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service will be under scrutiny later this month when three of its agents are expected to take the stand in a Camp Pendleton courtroom to answer an allegation they fabricated parts of statements being used in the prosecution of a Marine lieutenant.

David Sheldon, an attorney for 2nd Lt. Nathan Phan, alleged Friday that the agents added information into the statements taken from three Marines last spring that said they saw his client taking part in the assault of Iraqi civilians. The information they added, Sheldon contends, was false.

Those same three Marines have since consented to a request from Phan's defense team to provide signed affidavits saying they never told the agents Phan assaulted anyone.

"The question has to be 'What would motivate these three Marines to lie,'" Sheldon said during a telephone interview Monday. "Why would they bother to make up these allegations?"

One of the three Marines, Lance Cpl. Christopher Faulkner, testified Friday that he provided the affidavit because the statement attributed to him by the military's law enforcement agency was "a lie."


Now for a Flashback to 1990 from an article in USNews

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/culture/articles/921109/archive_018611_6.htm

In another case reviewed by U.S. News, however, it appears that the witness had no reason to lie or challenge NIS agents' account of the events in question. On a night in August 1990, Marine Lance Cpl. William "Chip" Jahn fired his .22-caliber rifle inside base housing and, as his family fled, then wandered around outside with the rifle. A standoff ensued between Jahn and military police as Jahn continued wandering about the yard, the rifle resting across his shoulders. Witnesses said the military police exercised great restraint, but when Jahn approached a Marine sergeant, the officer shot Jahn in the leg and disarmed him. Jahn's defense attorney said that his client was despondent and possibly suicidal. He was accused of six crimes, including attempted murder of the sergeant. Anne Colombo, a neighbor who witnessed the incident, was interviewed by the NIS. A few days later, Colombo says, an agent returned with a handwritten statement and asked her to sign it. Colombo said at a hearing that she examined the statement and saw that it was full of errors, including a sentence that quoted her as stating that she saw Jahn point his gun at the marine who shot and disarmed him. "I told the [agent] that wasn't how it went," Colombo advised a Navy judge, "but they just kind of blew me off." When Colombo continued to object to the report, she said, the agent told her, "This is just--I need it for my records. It's just a statement." Jahn was discharged and all criminal charges were dismissed.


51 posted on 01/21/2007 12:38:23 PM PST by Girlene
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To: lilycicero

Can you find him?


52 posted on 01/21/2007 1:45:02 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Rangers.)
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To: RedRover

mail


53 posted on 01/21/2007 1:51:19 PM PST by lilycicero (I believe SSGT Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: gardencatz

I've been wondering the exact same thing. Unbelievable that fancy law fims, the ACLU, the media, the Red Cross, the FBI, etc., etc., keep a watchful eye on Gitmo but turn a blind eye barbarous treatment of US Marines.


54 posted on 01/21/2007 1:55:56 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Rangers.)
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To: Little_shoe; RedRover
This might help. Investigation Manual
55 posted on 01/21/2007 2:08:39 PM PST by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Jarrell)
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To: lilycicero

Good call. If anyone can get a hold of a way to reach him, I'd love to have him on the show.


56 posted on 01/21/2007 2:09:37 PM PST by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Jarrell)
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To: euphoriadev; RedRover

mail


57 posted on 01/21/2007 2:20:03 PM PST by lilycicero (I believe SSGT Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: euphoriadev

Lily's got a shot. She's one of the good ones, euphoria.


58 posted on 01/21/2007 2:20:39 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Rangers.)
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To: euphoriadev

Thanks for that find.


59 posted on 01/21/2007 2:25:37 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Rangers.)
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To: Grimmy

Yes,your right.


60 posted on 01/21/2007 3:02:47 PM PST by Brandie (Support American troops and the IDF or bug off and stay out of my life.)
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