Posted on 01/20/2007 7:46:41 PM PST by RedRover
The Haditha Marine case, with its leaks of false information including, possibly, tidbits of confessions, has a recent parallel.
Remember the case of Petty Officer Daniel M. King? You don’t?
Evidently, neither does the Washington Post, Associated Press, National Public Radio, and the rest of the media that repeats every NCIS rumor as gospel. This is surprising because it wasn't that long ago that the NCIS lied to them all.
It was the Daniel M. King case, a few short years ago, that should make everyone suspicious of every leak, and every media report, in the Haditha Marines case.
Petty Officer King was a Navy cryptanalyst: Cryptologist Technician (Collection) First Class (CTR1). He was arrested in 1999 on suspicion of espionage, and was summarily stripped of all his rights as a citizen of this country.
NCIS agents administered a polygraph test. It is possible that the agents were not properly trained. In any event, Daniel King’s polygraph was ruled “inconclusive”. At the same time, no hard evidence was found to back up the charge. So the NCIS agents needed a confession.
Petty Officer King was detained by and subjected to a torturous interrogation that lasted over 26 days for 19 to 20 hours at a time.
At a Congressional hearing, attorney Jonathan Turley would testify, “The NCIS manufactured a theory of espionage without foundation and then took steps to compel statements to support that theory. The tapes and evidence secured by the defense in this case reveal agents seeking a trophy not the truth.”
At the same hearing, Lieutenant Robert A. Bailey (JAG, US Naval Reserve), stated:
“The conduct of NCIS agents in this case was nothing short of shocking. Independent reviewers have stated that their techniques were barbaric….
That such conduct occurred at the hands of NCIS is not surprising….Indeed, such conduct is predictable based on the training and guidance manual published by the NCIS.
According to the NCIS Manual, Chapter 14 - Interrogations, any person who adamantly denies any wrongdoing and points to his clean record is "subconsciously confessing."
If a confused suspect asks what is going to happen to him, the NCIS believes this is an indication that he "is beginning a confession."
Additionally, agents are to convey the idea that they will "persist as long as required to resolve the issue under investigation" and that they "will not give up the interrogation."….
[Petty Officer] King's only recourse was to confess to a crime he did not commit in the hopes that he would eventually receive a lawyer and the truth would come out.”
Finally, the truth did come out--despite the efforts of the NCIS. Petty Officer King was not a spy.
He was released in March 2001 after a hellish 520 days in confinement. Confinement in "Special Quarters," the equivalent to maximum security lock-down condition in which he spent approximately 20 hours a day in a six-foot by nine-foot cell.
Today, the NCIS is continuing the same criminal behavior of coercing confessions and ignoring rules and ethics in pursuit of its target. You haven't been reminded of this story in the mainstream media. But the truth is there for anyone willing to look. It's all right here at Documents in the Case of US v. Daniel M. King .
Spreading the word can be an act of patriotism. If the truth stays secret, the very worst of men will bring down our nation's very best.
Wonderful "liars and thugs" condensed for me to read (without moving my lips thank you very much) without all the legal jargon! Really a big help. Thank you.
Good idea, unless you don't mind him mowing the USS New Jersey on your frontyard!
You never saw me. I wasn't here.
My pleasure, Lancey. We have to keep pushing and get this story out.
Do you want me to submit it for your inspection?
Depends on the definition of "it." LOL
That's the crushing part. King didn't even get a "sorry, shippy" when the charges were dropped. And the interrogation tapes (which the NCIS denied existed, by the way) clearly show King suffering from hallucinations during his horrendous ordeal. Wonder how he's sleeping these days as a free man?
What I was shocked to find out in my Law and ethics class that NCIS can and will lie in order to "find out the truth." While the purpose is good, that causes a moral grey area. Later I had an opportunity to actually deal with NCIS agents. They struck me as hell bent to make life hell for the persons they were investigating. I love the tv show but it still does nothing for my despisement of them.
Thanks for the ping jazusamo and the posting of this and other threads, RedRover.
Everybody wants a piece of the action or so it may seem for a few, some may feel jilted that they are in the positions they are,, add to it the 'fog of war' and how some may see an opportunity to inject themselves into the mix and I could see how they might get a wee bit carried away so to speak in making their own unique contributions.
By the way, do you think the manual that's mentioned is available to non-NCIS personnel? Or do you think it'd be double-top-secret? Sounds like it'd make very illuminating reading.
I think you got it, Norms. Most people seem to go through life thinking they're in a movie--and these NCIS guys are no different. Both Turley and the JAG, Lt.Bailey, testified that agents were all throwing around (and misusing) jargon from spy movies and novels. Like a poster said above, it's like a bunch of fun and games.
Let us prayerfully hope so Red. So many damn evil people. No honor in their souls. HE will judge all according to their deeds in due time. We all fall short of HIS Glory and holyness but surely we are all admonished to do our best within our sphere of understanding. How could military folks turn on their own, especially under such circumstances as we witness in these trials. It is beyond me, and I am no saint.
LOL. Wanna bet? :0)
I really hate these people doing this to our Marines.
I think I like what Rogue Warrior Richard Marchinko called them..."The Admirals Gestapo"..... And no I dont think you can get that book its on Double secret probation.
I really hate that my Marine Corps is letting this happen to our brothers.
I guess, once you get up over the rank of Colonel, Semper Fi is just another empty, meaningless slogan.
Wonder where 60 Minutes is now? How come suddenly NCIS interrogations of the Hamdania and Haditha Marines produce "confessions" that are Gospel Truth?
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