"Voting machines can't be trusted"

The Wilmington Star ^ | 7 January 2007 | The Voice of Southeastern North Carolina

[lifelong_republican]

"...computerized vote counters can go haywire or be invaded by hackers. They cite elections in which machines wouldn't start, gave votes to the wrong candidates, or had trouble totaling votes..."

[lifelong_republican]

The faulty electronic systems are also known to generate fake votes.

[zarf]

Lifelong Republican = seminar poster

[C210N]

"Voting machines can't be trusted"

And the corollary to this law:

"'Rats, counting ballots whether behind closed doors at 3 AM, or on TV with giant magnifying glasses, can't be trusted"

[marvlus]

But dead people can't vote with them.

[Condor51]

No voting system is perfect and none are without flaws.

IIRC it was 'Uncle Joe' Stalin who said,

"It's not important who votes, it's important who COUNTS the votes."

There was no such thing as Electronic Voting when Chicago (Mayor Daley) and C_rook County (The Mob) stole the 1960 election for JFK.

[The_Victor]

Lifelong Republican = seminar poster

Down to posting unsigned "editorials" (re. letters to the editor) now. I guess the "experts" have grown quiet.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

Laying the groundwork for a 2008 recount already?

[Michael.SF.]

From the NY Times, via James Taranto and the WSJO:

The appropriations committees in the House and Senate must quickly act to restore the roughly $50 million cut by the previous Congress from President Bush's 2007 budget request for the bureau. Otherwise, the agency may have to forgo using hand-held computers for the next census, relying instead on paper and pencil, which is less accurate and would probably be more expensive in the long run because of its inefficiency

So computers are OK to count people to determine how districts are to be allocated, but not good enough to count the votes in an election?

Seems again, the left wants it both ways.

[Arrowhead1952]

Voting machines can't be trusted If Republicans win elections.

Voting machines can be trusted if RATs win elections.

[ErieGeno]

Except for corrupt officials who rig vote counts, except for the fact that dead people are allowed to vote, except for the fact that illegals are allowed to vote, except for the fact that politicians are allowed to take advantage of the infirmed to gather their vote, except for the fact that votes are regularly bought, except for the fact that unions tell their membership who to vote for, we probably have the best voting system in the free world! At least we don't have guns held at our temples as we vote. At least not yet?

Can it be done better? You bet! Votes ought to be gathered as taxes are gathered, centrally. Spreading voting machines, manual or electronic, around the country only serves to amplify corruption......

[weegee]

Dead voters can't be trusted.

Jammed and stolen punch ballot machines can't be trusted.

Jammed and rigged lever systems can't be trusted.

Big labor can't be trusted.

Knock and drag goon squads can't be trusted.

No ID voters can't be trusted.

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The problem is not with the machines, it is with the criminals (who deserve the death penalty) who attempt to steal elections.

[weegee]

Floriduh 2000 was "lost" by the Democrats on a non-electronic box.

They first claimed that the ballot was "confusing" and then claimed that the puncher "didn't work" (of course ballots will be dented when you stuff 6 of them together and try to manufacture votes).

Only one race seemed to have this problem in Floriduh. And only in select counties.

Odd. Really odd considering Democrats ran those districts.

[Notasoccermom]

Perhaps we need to redo the midterm elections?

[JimRed]

OK, lets hear your solution to voter fraud. Paper ballots? Fingerprint or retina scan ID? Fingerprint ID on absentee ballots? Purple ink on the finger to indicate that one has voted? In person re-registration every other election cycle?

[Russ]

You beat me to that comment by one minute. You're right, of course.

[100-Fold_Return]

Hang tough!! If they are attacking the messenger--not the message--then a liberal ploy has been uncovered.

A slight aroma is wafting from the so-called conservative commentators as you seem to be it...

[COBOL2Java]

OK, lets hear your solution to voter fraud. Paper ballots? Fingerprint or retina scan ID? Fingerprint ID on absentee ballots? Purple ink on the finger to indicate that one has voted? In person re-registration every other election cycle?

Or perhaps we should do away with elections, and have our "leaders" picked by a central committe of Democrat Party apparatchiks! It's the only way to rid us of these pesky election problems! Somehow I'd guess that Nancy Pelosi's constituents in San Franciso would prefer it this way...

[VeniVidiVici]

Yeah, Democrats had no problem with using them in this past election because they won.

Except for that Democrat whiner Jennings out of Sarasota who is diligently using the Democrat line that electronic machines stole her rightful position.

Democrats are so transparent.

[CastleMan95]

To add further to your point, democrats were screaming for electronic voting systems after the "hanging chad" issues in Florida in 2000. Then it seemed after the 2004 elections, they were complaining about the same electronic machines called for after 2000. Move things up to 2006 where the complaints about electronic voting machines happened BEFORE the election but certainly not after when they had prevailed.

[Bookwoman]

OK, lets hear your solution to voter fraud.

How about printed receipts with bar codes that show the voter's selections in text and electronic form. The voter verifies the correctness and refeeds the card into a scanner that records a second set of votes and ups a counter. The vote counts of the two voting methods much match and the number of voters need to match the walkin count which is made by representatives of both parties. If there is a conflict, the text part of the ballots can be recounted. Like in accounting - everything needs an audit trail and there needs to be checks and balances.