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To: tpaine

"Read the 10th & the 14th. The 'final arbiter' of Constitutionality is whether our rights to life, liberty, or property are being infringed upon by powers not delegated."

Correct...and who decides these things? The US Supreme Court.

"You're defending roadblocks, I'm not"

True, as they are constitutional and serve a good purpose. We lose about 5-6 times more people on our roads to drunkend drivers than we have lost in Iraq in the entire war.

"You're 'laughing' because you can't refute my facts about our Constitution"

I'm laughing because it's funny when a person loses an argument and can't accept it. A minimis temporary DWI roadblock has BEEN RULED CONSTITUTIONAL AND THUS IS SO. Your only refutation is that "you" know better. It's anarchical constitutionalism. How ironic that it closely resembles the liberals' relativism approach. Sorry for lauging, but it is funny as hell.


1,045 posted on 01/07/2007 9:23:53 AM PST by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: rbmillerjr
"-- reality is that the Supreme court is the final arbiter in constitutionality. --"

Read the 10th & the 14th. The 'final arbiter' of Constitutionality is whether our rights to life, liberty, or property are being infringed upon by powers not delegated.

Correct.

Thank you for conceding to the truth.
There is no power to block roads [for DUI control] delegated to ~any~ legislative body in the USA.

..and who decides these things? The US Supreme Court.

Nope, 'we the people' are the final arbiter.

You're defending roadblocks, I'm not.

True, as they are constitutional and serve a good purpose. We lose about 5-6 times more people on our roads to drunkend drivers than we have lost in Iraq in the entire war.

You just admitted that our rights to life, liberty, or property cannot be infringed upon by powers not delegated, yet you would do so to "serve a good purpose". Bizarre & contradictory.

LOL.
No, you are defending your interpretation of the US Constitution, which is incorrect.

You're 'laughing' because you can't refute my facts about our Constitution. Poor fella.

I'm laughing because it's funny when a person loses an argument and can't accept it.

It's funny indeed that you claim I've lost this argument, seeing you've agreed that our rights to life, liberty, or property cannot be infringed upon by powers not delegated, -- was correct.

A minimis temporary DWI roadblock has BEEN RULED CONSTITUTIONAL AND THUS IS SO.

Court 'rulings' are opinions and do not make it "SO". Nor does writing it in all caps. -- Try stamping your feet.

Your only refutation is that "you" know better. It's anarchical constitutionalism.

No, it's simply reading & understanding the clear words and the basic philosophy of our Constitution.

How ironic that it closely resembles the liberals' relativism approach. Sorry for lauging, but it is funny as hell.

Laugh on jr. You can't hear the laughter back at you, but rest assured, it is there.

1,049 posted on 01/07/2007 10:08:25 AM PST by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: rbmillerjr
True, as they are constitutional and serve a good purpose. We lose about 5-6 times more people on our roads to drunkend drivers than we have lost in Iraq in the entire war.

Even if that statement were true (the definition of "alcohol related fatality" is so broad as to cover many crashes not at all caused by drunk driving) the extremely small number of DUI arrests at these checkpoints suggests that if anything they make the roads more dangerous by diverting officers from other more effective ways of catching drunk drivers.

1,051 posted on 01/07/2007 11:19:12 AM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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