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To: rbmillerjr
"-- reality is that the Supreme court is the final arbiter in constitutionality. --"

Read the 10th & the 14th. The 'final arbiter' of Constitutionality is whether our rights to life, liberty, or property are being infringed upon by powers not delegated.

Correct.

Thank you for conceding to the truth.
There is no power to block roads [for DUI control] delegated to ~any~ legislative body in the USA.

..and who decides these things? The US Supreme Court.

Nope, 'we the people' are the final arbiter.

You're defending roadblocks, I'm not.

True, as they are constitutional and serve a good purpose. We lose about 5-6 times more people on our roads to drunkend drivers than we have lost in Iraq in the entire war.

You just admitted that our rights to life, liberty, or property cannot be infringed upon by powers not delegated, yet you would do so to "serve a good purpose". Bizarre & contradictory.

LOL.
No, you are defending your interpretation of the US Constitution, which is incorrect.

You're 'laughing' because you can't refute my facts about our Constitution. Poor fella.

I'm laughing because it's funny when a person loses an argument and can't accept it.

It's funny indeed that you claim I've lost this argument, seeing you've agreed that our rights to life, liberty, or property cannot be infringed upon by powers not delegated, -- was correct.

A minimis temporary DWI roadblock has BEEN RULED CONSTITUTIONAL AND THUS IS SO.

Court 'rulings' are opinions and do not make it "SO". Nor does writing it in all caps. -- Try stamping your feet.

Your only refutation is that "you" know better. It's anarchical constitutionalism.

No, it's simply reading & understanding the clear words and the basic philosophy of our Constitution.

How ironic that it closely resembles the liberals' relativism approach. Sorry for lauging, but it is funny as hell.

Laugh on jr. You can't hear the laughter back at you, but rest assured, it is there.

1,049 posted on 01/07/2007 10:08:25 AM PST by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: tpaine

There you go again.

"Read the 10th & the 14th. The 'final arbiter' of Constitutionality is whether our rights to life, liberty, or property are being infringed upon by powers not delegated."

You conceded defeat on this point by only putting my partial response. Let's try again sonny. Your above quote is correct. Unfortunately for you the US Supreme Court is entity that decides constitutional issues in this country. This point alone defeats your sophomoric analysis.

"There is no power to block roads [for DUI control] delegated to ~any~ legislative body in the USA."

Sure there is. It is done all over the country. The state laws stating this have been taken to the Supreme Court and they have ruled DUI roadblocks are unconstitutional.

Me:..and who decides these things? The US Supreme Court.

You: "Nope, 'we the people' are the final arbiter."

That would only be true in a pure democracy, we live in a republic with a constitution that divides powers into three branches of govt. (Executive,legislative, judicial)

"It's funny indeed that you claim I've lost this argument, seeing you've agreed that our rights to life, liberty, or property cannot be infringed upon by powers not delegated, -- was correct."

You have lost the argument. It's about a prima facie as you could want. Then you compound your loss by committing fallacy after fallacy. For instance in the above point, you, for the 2nd time, left out my complete answer. lol. You are defeated and you know it.

"Court 'rulings' are opinions and do not make it "SO".

Umm, you really need to do more research or lose your handle name. You dishonor that person. Supreme Court rulings interpret law when there are questions as to the intention of the Constitution and founders. They in fact the final ruling on disputes in law.
















1,050 posted on 01/07/2007 10:53:44 AM PST by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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