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If We Want to Grow as a Nation, We Must Invest More in Education than Incarceration
BlackAmericaWeb.com ^ | December 15, 2006 | Judge Greg Mathis

Posted on 12/17/2006 6:32:35 AM PST by wintertime

Last year, more than 7 million American people -- that’s about one in every 32 adults -- were behind bars, on probation or parole. The United States has, for years, imprisoned more people than any other country in the world. Yet, we don’t have the highest literacy rate....

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Inner-city schools fail half of their students, and jobs are removed from communities, replaced with guns and drugs, resulting in incarceration, if you’re lucky; death if you’re not. Nonetheless, many U.S. states have cut their education budgets to compensate for rapid growth in prison populations and prison construction. The misguided priorities that inform such decisions have only served to further marginalize already oppressed populations. It’s time that this country shifts its focus away from imprisonment and commits its resources to education and empowerment.

In the past 20 years, more than a thousand new prisons and jails have been built in the U.S. Yet, our prisons are more overcrowded now than ever.....(snip)... The nation’s "war on drugs" and the stiff sentencing laws that grew out of that war are largely to blame.

......The numbers of individuals sentenced for drug crimes increased nearly 65 percent between 1996 and 2003, accounting for the largest increase in inmates in the federal system.

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If federal and local governments were to adequately fund the nation’s public schools, ensuring all students had access to high-quality teachers, tutoring and after-school programs, we could stem the growth of the nation’s prison population. With support, many could be steered away from drugs and the street life and pushed towards college or vocational school. Instead, the country has poured its money into a criminal injustice system that, instead of creating special programs designed to rehabilitate the low-level offender, corals these lost souls into the nation’s prisons. Upon release, having no education and no skills, many return to the lifestyles that landed them in prison. It’s a dangerous cycle, and only prison architects and big business benefit.

In 1977, I was incarcerated for seven months. I was told that it cost taxpayers $30,000 to incarcerate me. A year later, I enrolled at Eastern Michigan University under an affirmative action program. Because I was poor, I had to use loans and tax-payer supported government grants to pay for my education. The cost of my four-year education was $24,000, less than the cost of my short jail sentence. No longer a burden to taxpayers, I am a significant taxpayer, helping, through my tax contributions, to pave the way for others who’ve yet to get an opportunity to make a way for themselves.

The tax dollars used to support my education were a worthy investment, one that benefits all of society. America should take note and act accordingly.


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To: org.whodat

What right to you or the government have to "allow" or not allow this behavior?


61 posted on 12/17/2006 8:07:54 AM PST by carolinalivin
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To: Right Wing Assault

In my department, everyday the teacher busted butt to provide the best for those kids only to have it thrown back in their faces
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Okay, I admit there are teachers that do a terrific job. But why are disruptive students allowed in the classroom? The answer is money. The school system receives Government money for each student. Why are bad teacher allowed in the classroom, because the unions won't let you fire them. Again get the Government and the Union out of the school and the problem will go away.


62 posted on 12/17/2006 8:10:17 AM PST by Mustard Plaster
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To: wintertime
Inner-city schools fail half of their students, and jobs are removed from communities, replaced with guns and drugs, resulting in incarceration, if you’re lucky; death if you’re not. Nonetheless, many U.S. states...

continue to vote for democrats to run their cities. Until the people vote the democrats out of office, screw the inner cities.

63 posted on 12/17/2006 8:11:12 AM PST by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: wintertime
Moronic. Schools and prisons are roughly similar (state-run institutions where the assigned population faces government sanctions and consequences for not being present without permission), but they have very different needs, and the prisons' "needs" (especially those pushed through by idiotic liberal lawsuits) are invariable more expensive.
You might as well say that Americans value Boone's Farm more than gasoline, because it costs more per gallon.
64 posted on 12/17/2006 8:11:48 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: wgflyer
Shhhh! We must never place blame on urban culture! We must always try to address the resultant problems by changing our approaches, not by suggesting that non-traditional culture might want to change its behaviors and mores in an effort to copy the successes of traditional American culture.
65 posted on 12/17/2006 8:13:57 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In Wisconsin, it's $13K per kid and the dropout rate in Milwaukee alone is over 50% (I can't put my fingers on the exact % right now.)

Yep. Throw more money at the problem. That'll fix it! Not.


66 posted on 12/17/2006 8:16:31 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: RockinRight

Students fail because they care more about pimpin' hos, smokin' weed, partyin'
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The school is not a place for social work. If you want to learn, go to school. The problem is the disruptive student holds back the one who want to learn. The only reason the disruptive student is there at all is because the government says he has to be there. You can't segregate him without a court order and it's almost impossible to kick him out because the school is paid by the government per student. The answer is to remove government and unions from the school system. This, of course, will never happen. Instead they will dump billions more into the problem thus making it worse.


67 posted on 12/17/2006 8:27:11 AM PST by Mustard Plaster
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To: wintertime
Black and Hispanic men only make up 10 percent of this country’s population, yet they make up 60 percent of nation’s prison population.

These are Judge Greg Mathis' words and statistics, not mine!

Do you suppose they indicates a basic problem with the moral compass in the minority community?

Does Judge Greg Mathis or anyone else out there think that the underlying problem pointed at by these statistics can be corrected by public education?

If so, I can only think that they are using the controlled substances that the judge claims unfairly put minority criminals in prison.
68 posted on 12/17/2006 8:32:35 AM PST by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights)
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To: ExtremeUnction

for some people the only way to stop them committing crimes is to lock them up.Sure it costs 30k to keep them in jail,but when they're out on the street their crimes may cost 150k or more per year.So simple economics ditates long sentences for the hard core types.


69 posted on 12/17/2006 9:08:38 AM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Farmer Dean
From the days of Little House on the Prairie to the Waltons schooling was commissioned by and accountable to parents. My experience is that parents know best what their children need, even when they are ignorant, themselves. However, in our big cities this link to parents has been broken and huge school districts are part of the political machines' patronage and spoils system. The corruption must be cleaned up.

This week Bill Gates et al recommended ending local control for state control. I would go the other way and break up huge school districts into smaller districts of one high school and its feeder schools. Then, the city could heal one district at a time as schools met the needs of the parents. By the way, part of that is getting the children to school, not sitting around the teachers' lounge complaining about attendance.

Or, just do what Bush did after Katrina. Send in the helicopters and airlift people out of dysfunctional communities. Relocate them.

70 posted on 12/17/2006 9:26:01 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Mustard Plaster
Students fail because teachers don't teach.

Do you know what you are talking about? Do you know any inner city teachers?

Inner city kids don't learn because there is no interest in learning in 80% of the families, if you can call them that.

My wife, who works twelve hour days because of short sighted programs such as no child left behind has difficulty getting parents to spend 10 minutes a day to work on spelling or match homework.

She has students who come to her that don't know their times tables at the end of third grade.

City and state boards of education with their programs of social promotion are just passing the failure UP the ladder.

People get out of the inner city because they and their parents want them to get out.

Many of the parents of my wife's students are so stoned or drunk they don't give a damn.

71 posted on 12/17/2006 9:35:25 AM PST by North Coast Conservative ( Are you a sheepdog, or a sheep?)
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To: Teacher317

Starting in the early 1960's, the left did their best to transform the African-American society into wards of the state and in turn creating a loyal voting block by promising governmental welfare, no strings attached. Sadly, the African-American society continues to embrace the position that little to no proactive improvement is to be expected from their community. Meanwhile other minority zoom right past them toward the American dream.


72 posted on 12/17/2006 9:47:01 AM PST by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: AlphaOneAlpha
Meanwhile other minority zoom right past them toward the American dream.

Or you talking about Asians, who are about 3% of the population yet graduate their kids at 50% compared with whites at 41%, and blacks at 30%. Or are you talking about Hispanics who are not afraid to get their hands dirty and now out populate Blacks. Or even, Indians who are entering the computer and engineering fields while blacks are entering the football and basketball fields. Maybe your talking about recent African immigrants who generally work and are not as prone to violence because of poverty, they enter the health profession a lot and also are increasingly seen in solid professional careers.

Sure their are African American, doctors, lawyers, professional, and so on but the key is cultural expectations as a whole. I really respect the black people who choose to overcome bitterness and take advantage of this great country and also think of this country as great. I don't respect at all people who having physical straight and good health decide that the American labor system is racist, bias, and so on. The one's that say "they ain't no job out huer for a nigga", while if they would wake their lazy, ignorant, asses up maybe they would see that jobs are being realized and taken by legal and illegal immigrants.

Sigh...

Not only that, their also exists a dumbfounding reluctant to "keep it real" in regards to these obvious shortcomings in the black inner city leadership. While somethings it is mentioned but coupled with blame, the white man, the government or the society as a whole.

73 posted on 12/17/2006 10:40:01 AM PST by KingArthur305
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To: org.whodat

So allowing people to lay around get high and make unwanted babies. Is going to make high achievers?? LOL



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I said nothing of the sort.

I suggested that ending the war on drugs would help reduce the prison population.


74 posted on 12/17/2006 11:34:41 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: Mustard Plaster
Okay, I admit there are teachers that do a terrific job. But why are disruptive students allowed in the classroom? The answer is money.

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Disruptive youth are allowed into the school because teachers, principals, and superintendents agree to open the doors to these schools, and agree to participate in this corrupt system.

If teachers, principals, and superintendents just said, "NO!", it would stop.

Teachers, principals, and superintendents should know, or do know, that disruptive students create an impossible learning environment. That they agree to participate in a system that hurts all children makes them one of three things:

1) stupid

2) greedy in that their pay check is more important to them than pulling the plug on dysfunction and corruption.

3) evil.
75 posted on 12/17/2006 11:40:35 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: Teacher317
Shhhh! We must never place blame on urban culture! We must always try to address the resultant problems by changing our approaches, not by suggesting that non-traditional culture might want to change its behaviors and mores in an effort to copy the successes of traditional American culture.


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Private schools can make these demands and suggestions that culture change. Government schools run smack into the establishment clause of the Constitution.
76 posted on 12/17/2006 11:42:41 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: Mustard Plaster

The answer is to remove government and unions from the school system

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The answer is complete separation of SCHOOL and state. Get government out of the K-12 education business.


77 posted on 12/17/2006 11:43:56 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: North Coast Conservative
What you have described is a totally dysfunctional and corrupt system.

By accepting a pay check to work in this chaos, your wife is propping up failure.
78 posted on 12/17/2006 11:47:15 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: wintertime
Well-stated. BTW here's the top-three and bottom-three states in terms of annual expenditure per student in the public schools:

1 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA $13,993
2 NEW YORK $11,023
3 NEW JERSEY $10,869
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49 ARIZONA $5,099
50 UTAH $4,674
51 NORTH DAKOTA $4,612

Anybody think that North Dakota kids are prison-bound, while DC kids are upward-bound, because the DC schools have the benefit of 3x more funding per student??

One overwhelming characteristic of the prison population is fatherlessness. Yet I read that at the time of the Harlem Renaissance, an extraordinary period of literary, artistic, and intellectual creativity in the 1920's, 90% of the children in Harlem lived in households headed by two married parents.

Put that in your clue bag.

79 posted on 12/17/2006 12:05:45 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Caught another clue.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
1 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA $13,993

I live in an exurb of Wash DC. Want to know why this number is so high? Special education. This school system is so filled with incompetents that a regular industry has developed with lawyers, testers and private schools.

Here's how the racket goes. Parent goes to the school and says "I want Jr. tested for special education services. Gimme the paperwork." She fills it out and turns it in. The clock is now running. The system has 60 CALENDER days to complete testing, evaluations, observations, doctor visits (if necessary), vision checks, hearing checks and a series of 3 - 4 meetings. It is rare that the people in DC get this done on time. On day 61, the mom takes what she has to her lawyer of choice (who is orchestrating this whole thing) and he has the kid tested. Because the school is out of compliance, the lawyer goes to the judge with all his information and pretty much gets the kid whatever the mom wants--private schools, tutoring, laptops -- it's Christmas come early. And DC schools pay for it all--including the bill for the attorney.

Until they figure out how to get the paperwork done that all the other school districts in the country manage to do, that 13K number will grow even larger.

How did the mom find the attorney in the first place? Advertising on TV. I see them all the time. It's a racket.

80 posted on 12/17/2006 12:35:30 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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