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To: bray

You said -- "Save the lecture since I was born and raised here in Oregon."

I saw that you were from Oregon, which is why I responded. You must have been knocked in the head by one of those logs the surf washed up. You're too grumpy for the Oregonians that I know.



You also said -- "These storms have been far more severe than the last few years and especially the one they were caught in. They were foolhardy to attempt that climb knowing they had a small window going up the most difficult face. That was foolhardy."

Says you, but not most of the people I know. If people thought that way in Oregon, they would have already put major restrictions on the mountain. They don't. People go up there by the thousands, all the time. There are people who are more capable and those who are less capable. They all go up and they go at different times and seasons according to their capabilities.

But, *anyone* can get caught at any time. It doesn't matter what time of the year it is.

Sorry to have run into such a grumpy Oregonian. And "folks" -- the majority of Oregonians are not like that. It's more "live and let live" in Oregon. That's the way it goes there.

Regards,
Star Traveler


222 posted on 12/17/2006 8:33:31 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Well I talked about it with a house full of native Oregonians last night and we all thought they were idiots for trying that. They may have thought they knew what they were getting into, but had no idea how bad that mountain can get. Perhaps a transplant like yourself can help them out.

Having skied on it I can tell you the winds are bonechilling on the lifts when the 50 mph winds blow and they are 2000' below where the climbers were at. Most likely got knocked off a cliff by the wind and then the storm came in.

Your personal attacks are pretty childish and usually used by someone who has already lost the issue.

The guys made a foolhardy decision and now 100s of people have to risk their lives to save them. The fact that they didn't walk out yesterday is a pretty bad sign.

Pray for W and Our Troops


260 posted on 12/17/2006 9:32:22 AM PST by bray (Redeploy to Iran)
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