ISLAM:What the West Needs to Know

http://www.whatthewestneedstoknow.com/about_the_project.asp ^

[Ultra Sonic 007]

If you are so "eager to learn the truth" don't ask me to do all the work for you.

SauronOfMordor listed numerous passages from the Qur'an to try and prove his argument. It's only fair that you do the same; otherwise, you're essentially surrendering the debate.

[zimdog]

"Bad Muslims?" May I ask by what authority do you say this?

The Golden Rule.

They read the same Koran as "Good" Muslims.

And Klansmen MLK read the same Bible. Are you suggesting that this means there is no difference between their interpretations of it?

[Fishrrman]

Russia is rapidly de-populating...I don't know what exactly will happen there. They won't have the population to even sustain a military force of any consequence.

Consider:
As Western Europe collapses and is force-converted to Islam, might not those white/Christian Europeans who refuse to become dhimmis flee towards "the east" - that being Russia, which is _in need_ of white/Christians (perhaps they would have to "convert" to Orthodox Christianity)?

Some will escape to America, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. But for the majority, where will they go? I predict they'll migrate to those parts of the European/Asian continent that will remain [relatively] "Muslim free". That would be Eastern Europe and Russia.

As Western Europe confronts its inescapable doom, those Europeans with any spirit left will realize that - at least "at home" - their future is bleak. They will depart for somewhere - ANYwhere - to get away from the Islamic hordes that will overwhelm Western Europe. Those "without the spirit" to at least try to escape Islam will end up as dhimmis, or worse, converts. It's that simple.

And I also predict that by then, Russia and the Eastern European states will be glad to have them, since they [mostly] are in dire need of "repopulation". But the LAST thing they would want would be to be "repopulated" with Muslims. All this will happen within _this_ century.

- John

[zimdog]

SauronOfMordor listed numerous passages from the Qur'an to try and prove his argument.

I've done it before. SauronOfMorder (and you) can feel free to look through my previous posts.

It's only fair that you do the same; otherwise, you're essentially surrendering the debate.

SauronOfMordor claims to have read the Qur'an and the Ahdath. If he refuses to acknowledge sections that fit his worldview, my repeating them will make no difference. This is hardly a "debate" it is SOM's singular and violent reading of selections from Muslim texts writ across the souls of millions.

[milford421]

Thanks Coleus...people are not paying enough attention. Look to Europe to see the peril of not being awake.

[Sun]

Here's a lovely Muslim lady who should wake up the naive types:

http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/

She wrote the book, "The trouble with Islam...."

She has had death threats because of her honesty.

[blam]

Everybody runs, no-one stays and fights?

[jan in Colorado]

Thanks for your very insightful posts on this thread, george76!

The enemy within is now smiling, just biding his time.

and growing stronger every day...

And many 'Christians' in the West are just too busy enjoying their material prosperity to be bothered with unpleasant history.

This bothers me even more than the traitorous actions of the ENEMEDIA and the leftists. WHERE are the Christians standing up for the TRUTH and exposing the FALSE teachings of islam?

Many Christian knights, soldiers, and sailors have died defending Christendom against the onslaughts of Islam down through the centuries.

The day is coming when we will be forced to make a choice...convert to islam, or die! What a shame the FREEDOM we have in Christ is being taken for granted...

But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,
by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron,
1 Timothy 4:1-2

[CottShop]

What the West needs to know BUT is too wrapped up in their own comforts to beleive! If it doesn't directly affect us now, why then the threat must not really exist according to the far left. Brilliant!

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

[jan in Colorado]

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

This is really ALL we need to know!

[jan in Colorado]

This is the perfect thread to repost a post by Broadsword...

Re: Broadsword's 20 questions about Islam
To jan in Colorado | 01/29/2005 3:14:45 PM MST sent

Why is the religion of peace directly responsible for 28 out of the 30 violent conflicts raging in the world today?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the vast majority of chattel slavery in the world today?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the vast majority of terrorism in the 20th and 21st Centuries?

Why are the practitioners of the religion of peace routinely slaughtering unarmed practitioners of every other religion wherever they can get away with it?

Why does the religion of peace call for the murder of anyone who converts from the religion of peace to another religion?

Why do so many of the believers of the religion of peace look forward to the opportunity to rape 72 virgins in heaven if they die while killing innocent women and children of other religions? Is it a god they worship, or just sex? If a god, then shouldn’t heaven have more to do with him than their libidos?

Why do the leaders of the religion of peace routinely issue fatwas (death warrants) for anybody who questions their holy book of peace and their holy prophet of peace?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the sexual mutilation of millions of little girls and the savage oppression of women?

Why did millions of the practitioners of the religion of peace laugh, cheer and dance in the street because 3,000 innocent men, women and children were murdered by seventeen men who supposedly “hijacked” the religion of peace? And why don’t the real practitioners of the religion of peace condemn the supposed “hijackers” of their religion? Why the deafening silence? Why the smiles? Why the cheers and high fives?

Perhaps I just don’t understand this whole PEACE thing. Did the definition of the word change, or is somebody just blowing a lot of smoke?

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

Dear George: Just out of morbid curiosity, how would Timothy McVeigh fit into your exam?

LIBO

[backtothestreets]

"The day is coming when we will be forced to make a choice...convert to islam, or die!"

I see a different scenario and choices if we act wisely. It is a time when Muslims will be given an opportunity to refute Islam. But they mustn't be forced to convert to Christianity, nor another religion. If they come to convert to Christianity, it must be of their free will. Therefore the question posed them must never be will they accept Christianity or die. Have them refute Islam, and leave the door to Christianity open to them for the time they are ready. They will come in great numbers.

Thanks for the ping.

[jan in Colorado]

I see a different scenario and choices if we act wisely.

My optimism is slipping away...there are few acting wisely in this Country, and the arrogance of many thinking "It can't happen here" will be our downfall.

If they come to convert to Christianity, it must be of their free will.

THAT is one of the big differences between Christianity and islam...FREE WILL...

One has a Saviour, one has a dictator.
One is chosen freely, one is forced by submission
One is Light, the other is darkness
One teaches love and forgiveness, the other teaches hate and vengeance
One gives freedom, the other enslaves...

It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery
-Galatians 5:1

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["One has a Saviour, one has a dictator.
One is chosen freely, one is forced by submission
One is Light, the other is darkness
One teaches love and forgiveness, the other teaches hate and vengeance
One gives freedom, the other enslaves..."]

jan: I hate to bring this news to you, but we don't live in a binary world (1's and 0's)...things get a little more complicated.

[jan in Colorado]

Please forgive my ignorance, but I don't get your point.
I'm comparing Christianity and islam...I'm not implying they are the only two that exist, just the two another FReeper and I were discussing.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["but I don't get your point."]

Look, neither you nor I need to go to the North Pole to realize that it's cold (right?). Now, I would like to think you would be smart enough to realize that "religion" is divisive by its history...,Mkay.

[jan in Colorado]

The North Pole is cold?

[kronos77]

Emperor Manuel II

[kronos77]

Old Christians hade guts.