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Rumsfeld Needs to Go: Retired Generals Tell Congress
Peace and Freedom ^ | September 26, 2006 | John E. Carey

Posted on 09/25/2006 6:38:12 PM PDT by John Carey

Three retired U.S. Army Officers address a congressional committee on the war in Iraq in starkly harsh words Monday.

“I believe that Secretary Rumsfeld and others in the administration did not tell the American people the truth for fear of losing support for the war in Iraq,” retired Maj. Gen. John R. S. Batiste told a forum conducted by Senate Democrats.

A second military leader, also a retired two-star general, Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, assessed Rumsfeld as “incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically.”

A third officer, retired Col. Paul X. Hammes, joined Batiste and Eaton in testimony before the Democratic Policy Committee of the U.S. Senate. The unusual location was chosen, Democrats said, because the Republican leadership in the Senate has not permitted thorough oversight of the war in Iraq from the Senate Armed Services Committee. Chairman Byron Dorgan (D-ND) said majority Republicans had failed to conduct hearings on the issue, adding, “if they won’t … we will.”

All three officers who testified served in Iraq, and Batiste also was senior military assistant to then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz.

Batiste, who commanded the Army’s 1st Infantry Division in Iraq, also blamed Congress for failing to ask “the tough questions.”

He said Rumsfeld at one point threatened to fire the next person who mentioned the need for a postwar plan in Iraq.

“Mr. Rumsfeld and his immediate team must be replaced or we will see two more years of extraordinarily bad decision-making,” General Eaton said.

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To: John Carey

Current Generals tell Congress retired Generals must go!


41 posted on 09/25/2006 6:55:31 PM PDT by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: John Carey

This group of scumbags has already been discredited.
Old news.


42 posted on 09/25/2006 6:56:13 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: onyx

I don't have a blog, so I am not that in tune with the etiquette, but I thought I heard someone once say that it is considered to be in bad taste to do it.

Is this what someone in this thread referred to as "blog pimping"?


43 posted on 09/25/2006 6:57:03 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: churchillbuff; John Carey

I'll grant you this Churchy --- you engage and try to defend your postions.

This poster not only excerpts his own blog, but also serial posts articles that we would expect democrats to post and he rarely, if ever, replies.


44 posted on 09/25/2006 6:58:06 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: John Carey

It would be nice to recall their sorry arses back to active duty, give them order they will refuse then Courts Martial them, strip all pay and benefits and give them dishonorable discharges.


45 posted on 09/25/2006 6:58:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: roses of sharon

FR is huge --- and we attract disruptors too, but they are eventually outed and banned.

Keep the faith!


46 posted on 09/25/2006 6:59:13 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: John Carey

I wonder what positions in a possible Dem administration these three arm chair Generals are after?


47 posted on 09/25/2006 6:59:36 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: CWOJackson; John Carey
When you can only get three generals out of 10,000 living current and past flag officers your point is pretty weak.

My first thoughts exactly. A convenient little story to take some attention away from the Angry ex-President.

John Carey, aren't you the one who claimed to know Richard Armitage as a friend a week or so ago?

48 posted on 09/25/2006 6:59:36 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (No religion demands so much of it's members and so little of itself, than islam.)
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To: rlmorel


Right.


49 posted on 09/25/2006 7:00:02 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

"FR is huge --- and we attract disruptors too, but they are eventually outed and banned."


IBTZ





oops, thought you were bonyx2.... sorry


50 posted on 09/25/2006 7:00:37 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: onyx

;)


51 posted on 09/25/2006 7:01:03 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: bwteim


Hey! Good to see you bonyx!


52 posted on 09/25/2006 7:01:42 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: John Carey
This appears to have been written by you. No sources given. You could have just published your work on an established News thread instead of appearing to be your own cheerleader/salesman.
53 posted on 09/25/2006 7:02:01 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: onyx

Hey, pimp my blog, onyx!

-- bonyx


54 posted on 09/25/2006 7:02:20 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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You have a blog? Who knew?


55 posted on 09/25/2006 7:03:07 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: John Carey
... testimony before the Democratic Policy Committee of the U.S. Senate ...

This is just some hack Democratic Party committee -- not an official Congressional committee. It has no relevance other than as campaign propaganda.

56 posted on 09/25/2006 7:03:15 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: roses of sharon
I had a disagreement with another poster on this. He/She took offense to my negative statements regarding the NYT and NYT in a given thread that had the LAT as a source of a negative story regarding the Army budget, revolt of the generals and so on.

My point of issue there (and in some other threads) is that the media is a battleground as well. We ignore it at our own peril, and that in a time of war, free speech does have responsibilities and limitations.

The NYT has consistently shown they cannot be trusted with sensitive information, and the fact that their sources are hidden should not exempt them from those responsibilities.

Not everyone agrees, however.

57 posted on 09/25/2006 7:03:26 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: crazyhorse691; John Carey; onyx

Or it could be in the ..................



drum roll please........................



blog category instead of news..........


58 posted on 09/25/2006 7:04:04 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Steel Wolf
We must stick together and find a way to blame the Democrats.

That's how accountability is handled, my friend.

59 posted on 09/25/2006 7:04:11 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: zarf
"Who did they work for, what is their political affiliations and to whom do their monetary contributions flow?"

More than likely they were anti-war hacks at the Pentagon during the Clinton Administration.

60 posted on 09/25/2006 7:05:00 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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