Posted on 08/30/2006 8:36:23 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
Filed under: Bride at every wedding, corpse at every funeral, Catholicism
Thus says from my Lil Bro Thom, no Bush-lover, he, who very much appreciated seeing this
Non-Catholics and Catholics who have not yet gone through the process of formally receiving the sacrament of reconciliation and their first communion, but who wish to participate in that part of the Mass are invited to process to the minister dispensing the Holy Eucharist with their hands crossed upon their chest (not a humiliation, but a practical measure, so that there may be no confusion on the priests part that they are NOT receiving the Eucharist), whereupon the priest will simply touch his hand to their head and ask Gods blessing upon them. Here we see President and Mrs. Bush doing it the way we ask it to be done, and believe me we surely appreciate and honor their respectfulness.
That arrogant president, Bush, did Catholics the world over honor when he respected our ways.
And here we see how a Non-catholic disrespectfully communes at Mass:
(go to anchoress blog to pic of the "sacralige"
Bill Clinton, obviously. A Southern Baptist with a penchant for carrying around big bibles took communion during a Roman Catholic Mass in Africa in 1998. When New Yorks Cardinal John O Connor, doing his job, called Clinton on it, he was told that his (Cardinal John O Connors) understanding was deficient. They do things differently in Africa, was the answer from the Clinton administration. When pressed on the fact that even the African Bishops Conference complained about it, things devolved into well, we understood it this way
The transcript: Clinton Press Secy Mike McCurry and the press (all boldface emphasis added - admin)
Q: as you know, Cardinal OConnor had some very strong things to say yesterday about the Presidents taking of communion. In that light, I wanted to ask you three things. One, the Cardinal suggested that no one should take communion whos not in a state of grace. Did the President feel he was in a state of grace, one? Two, does he regret taking communion? And three, the White House suggested it had contact with officials at the church who thought it appropriate but the pastor has said he was not one of them. Can you give us some names of who said it was okay?
MCCURRY: our team on the ground indicated that the conference of bishops in South Africa had a more ecumenical view of the holy eucharist and had advised members of the traveling party it was appropriate for baptized Christians to share in communion. And the President acted on that guidance And that includes the priest, and I thought also the bishop who officiated as well, is my understanding, but we can double check that. [ ] Q: Its a question about what the Cardinal is saying.
MCCURRY: Cardinal OConnor may not be familiar with the doctrinal attitude towards the holy eucharist that the conference of bishops in South Africa brings to that question.
Q: The South African bishops have apparently now criticized the minister for having offered communion to the President or permitted him to take it. Does the White House have any reaction?
MCCURRY: Im not aware of that. Thats contrary to the guidance that the President and his traveling delegation were given at the time of the service.
Q: Well, apparently they say he was supposed to have asked the local bishop for permission before permitting the President to take communion.
MCCURRY: Our understanding was that the invitation was extended on behalf of the Conference of South African Bishops.
Q: Mike, can you be specific about who extended it?
MCCURRY: I can find out if our advance people have got any idea who they spoke with.
Q: As I understand it, only Catholics are supposed to receive Catholic communion. Did that come up in the Presidents mind?
MCCURRY: That is the attitude and posture of the U.S. Catholic Conference of Bishops, but our understanding is that the Conference of Bishops in South Africa have a different view of holy communion.
All so very vague, all so very arrogant someone told us this was indicated Ill have to see if we know any names and Im not aware of that, which seems to mean that cant be true It was all so very typical of that president and his administration which never admitted a mistake, not even one time. And boy, the press sure hates the Bush administration for not admitting to mistakes . But different presidents, different letters after the name they get treated differently, after all.
But you know, I dont think I ever heard the besotted press call Clinton arrogant. Not even one time.
Im frankly surprised to see that the issue came up at all, but then John O Connor was mighty, mighty - an enormous and heroic presence - and no one to be simply dismissed. Sadly, his successor - who hides out in his seat and keeps his mouth shut - seems to be a self-protective, aching void of a man. And we in NY feel the void keenly. I miss Cardinal O Connor.
For doing his job, Cardinal O Connor was also, apparently, targeted by the Clinton White House for surveillance.
This huge Clinton surveillance scheme was VAAPCON, the Violence Against Abortion Providers Task Force. According to the U.S. Justice Department, VAAPCON was charged with determining whether there was a nationwide conspiracy to commit acts of violence against reproductive health care providers. The more than 900 targets of all this surveillance included the Christian Coalition the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, and even then-Roman Catholic Cardinal of New York John OConnor. [ ] So if you were close to the late Cardinal OConnor, or called him to discuss personal or family problems even personal sins to him, you may have been wiretapped and recorded by the Clintons VAAPCON surveillance. In that sense, the Clinton administration may have literally bugged the confessional.
Thats stretching it a bit, but the fact remains that Americas formost prelate seemed to pay a price for asking the president to just, you know act respectable
John Cardinal Connor, Priest, Patriot, Veteran and Holy Man - pray for us
. . . as well I can imagine!But thank you for your service.
One of the options my eldest daughter considered coming out of college in '93 as the Marines. I'd have respected the idea in the 1980s, but in 1993 I made allowance for the fact that a Democrat would in the WH for at least the next 3 1/2 years. And my judgement of the effect a Democratic CiC could have on morale - I like to point out that there hasn't been a good Democratic Secretary of Defense in the past half-century - was only too well vindicated.
Happily the option my daughter really preferred became avaiable and so instead of joining the Marines she did graduate work - and became a mother and homemaker.
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