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"Birth Control Is Selfish" ... The Message Society Doesn't Want To Hear
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Posted on 05/25/2006 9:14:50 PM PDT by nrfcmedia

"Birth Control Is Selfish" ... The Message Society Doesn't Want To Hear

This past weekend graduates of Saint Thomas University were treated to a surprising speech by 21-year-old graduating student Ben Kessler. Some graduates walked out, many jeered, and others spewed profanities in response to his speech.

Just what did he speak of which caused such an outcry? The War in Iraq? Border control? NSA spying? None of the above.

So, what exactly did Mr. Kessler do wrong? He touched society's third rail: contraception. Mr. Kessler had the audacity to call the use of birth control "an act of selfishness."

One would have expected some encouraging applause from the audience, after all St. Thomas is a Catholic institution. The reality is that many of these Catholic students and family members are themselves using contraception, and Mr. Kessler confronted their lifestyle and the use of contraception.

Mr. Kessler dared to speak about this issue and people didn't want to hear his message. What happened to the exchange of ideas universities are famous for? Where were all of the supposed "open minds" at during this speech? Instead of listening to his speech with an open mind, it seems that they were too busy keeping themselves ignorant by jeering and ridiculing him.

Society has a lust affair with birth control to the point of not being able to think outside of the box. We live in a contraception "matrix" where it's impossible to believe that there are any harmful effects on marriage, society, and the health of women.

This "contraception deception" is the primary force behind the attacks against the contra-contraception message.

For the most part, society doesn't want to hear the message. This message is that, in our culture, contraception leads to increases in abortion, teenage sex, affairs (and subsequent divorce), health problems, and statutory rape. These facts are apparent by simply comparing statistics.

Why are people willfully preserving their ignorance? For the past century, people have lived in a society that endorses the practice of a contraceptive lifestyle of easy, commitment free, and on-demand sex without challenging them to question possible adverse effects.

Mr. Kessler could have spoke about the start of a career, the discernment of a vocation, the undertaking of new responsibilities, or many other subjects related to graduation. But hopefully his bold message will help to his classmates to question the force-fed information they have heard all their lives concerning human sexuality and contraception and arrive at a more natural, healthier view of human sexuality.

The contraception debate is long overdue, and it is people like Mr. Kessler who are breaking down the walls of ignorance, selfishness, and deception. Society may be resistant to this message, but over time the truth will prevail.


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To: Scotswife

yes...there is the problem, the use of birth control, has denied males their right to procreate...birth control, is all about women controlling the males,women are saying; you can have sex with me, but I control the results...your ejaculate is nothing to me, but something to flush down the toilet....little wonder that our society is going down the tube....


261 posted on 05/26/2006 9:04:22 AM PDT by thinking
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To: HairOfTheDog
It's certainly fair to say sex is big entertainment, but being free to do what you want is part of freedom as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.

Ah, the Libertarian Creed. I know it well: "I believe in Self, the Me Almighty, harmer of no one else."

It's something people have the ~right~ to evangelize and name-call about, I suppose,

Aw shucks, well aren't you generous to grant us that right. Thanks!

but it's not a movement I'll be part of.

Fair enough. Vaya con Dios.
262 posted on 05/26/2006 9:08:46 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: Drew68
The church wants people to have more kids. They need more sheep to shear!

It's all about increasing the size of the flock.

263 posted on 05/26/2006 9:13:33 AM PDT by wireman
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To: SoothingDave
And yet, somehow, the Catholics in making moral arguments for personal change are the scary ones who want to force their views on everyone.

I don't recall even mentioning Catholics in my post. My view is personal and isn't even a practical possibility in today's world. But children should never be treated as the throw-aways they've become in today's America.

264 posted on 05/26/2006 9:14:42 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)
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To: Antoninus

Yeah, let's not debate the issue. It's much easier to ascribe negative motives to a person's screen name which, as a self-described "literary" person, you should recognize. See my post #264.


265 posted on 05/26/2006 9:20:34 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)
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To: Antoninus
Most social conservatives believe in local self-government absent an imperious, overweening federal or state judiciary.

Again, I didn't want to focus on this, but you're not considering things like 'gay marriage'. I do not want a federal law against gay marriage. Marriage, to me, is not a function of the federal govt.

The 'cheap democrat' fiscal conservatives generally embrace most of the democrat social policy positions--only slightly less so.

Again, if you mean we both believe that 'social' and 'personal' matters like consentual sex and drug use are not matters for the govt, then yes, we agree on that. But we also agree that slavery should be illegal. That hardly makes us 'Democrat-lite'. You saying that is a direct insult, and will only poison the well.

No, I don't have a problem with them at all--as long as they respect our religious beliefs, even if they don't agree with them on every point, and refrain from attacking them.

Well, except I believe I've shown respect for your religious beliefs here, yet you attacked me and all 'political conservatives' by calling us Ds.

That's what the Federal Marriage Amendment is about--protecting the rights of the state and local governments from an intrusive, unwelcome novelty being imposed via the unelected courts.

I would say that's inaccurate. The ammendment is about protecting states from being forced to allow other states to make their own marriage laws. Federal enforcement of private, social rules, forcing all states to a single measure.

This is in no way a defense of local govt, in my opinion. It's a law telling local govts how they must set their own marriage laws. A clear intrusion of the fed govt on local powers. Specifically, to enforce your interpretation of one Christian moral rule.

So... was Thomas Jefferson a "liberal" when he imposed castration as the punishment for sodomy in Virginia when he was governor?

As governor, he didn't push a federal law forcing all other states to abide by his rule. So no, that is not a 'liberal' use of the federal govt.

Or if you manage to take over the GOP completely and give us no reason to vote--as is the situation in NJ.

The only way the GOP wins is if they have *both* of us. And that means ya'll have to learn to get along with us, just like we have to get along with ya'll.

Altho if the GOP in congress doesn't stop it with their 'liberal' ways, I personally will have no reason to vote for an R this fall.

266 posted on 05/26/2006 9:27:04 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative = Careful, as in 'Conservative with money')
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To: wireman
The church wants people to have more kids. They need more sheep to shear!

Thank you, Dan Brown.

Boy, you Catholic haters just can't resist, can you?
267 posted on 05/26/2006 9:33:35 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: Antoninus

Great post.


268 posted on 05/26/2006 9:39:58 AM PDT by Jonx6
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To: Antoninus
I am Catholic. My kids went to Catholic schools and I was married in the Church over 23 years ago.

Apparently, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground (of course that won't stop your sanctimonious rantings).

If I dare to disagree with you, forgive me.

269 posted on 05/26/2006 9:39:59 AM PDT by wireman
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To: Dominic Harr
Again, I didn't want to focus on this, but you're not considering things like 'gay marriage'. I do not want a federal law against gay marriage. Marriage, to me, is not a function of the federal govt.

An Amendment to the Constitution is not a "Law" per se. It is a change in the Social Contract we all agree to live under. If, as Americans, we decide we want to consider marriage to be only the union of one man and one woman and put that into our Constitution, there is no reason why we shouldn't if we can muster the support for it. That's exactly how the system is supposed to work.

Again, if you mean we both believe that 'social' and 'personal' matters like consentual sex and drug use are not matters for the govt, then yes, we agree on that. That hardly makes us 'Democrat-lite'.

To my mind, it absolutely does. I give you credit for honesty, however.

You saying that is a direct insult, and will only poison the well.

It's not a direct insult. It's true. You admitted it yourself.

I would say that's inaccurate. The ammendment is about protecting states from being forced to allow other states to make their own marriage laws. Federal enforcement of private, social rules, forcing all states to a single measure.

No. The amendment is to prevent ALL the states from eventually being forced by the federal judiciary to accept homosexual marriages as valid. It is also an attempt to fix an apparent hole in the social contract known as the US Constitution which the Founding Fathers never dreamed would be called into question--that is, the definition of marriage as the union of one man and one woman.

If you can't bother to get behind a proposition as simple and fundamental as defining legally recognized marriage as only between one man and one woman, there's no way we can remain in the same party together over the long haul. To attempt to do so would be an exercise in futility.

As governor, he didn't push a federal law forcing all other states to abide by his rule. So no, that is not a 'liberal' use of the federal govt.

But is it a 'liberal' use of state power, in your opinion?

The only way the GOP wins is if they have *both* of us. And that means ya'll have to learn to get along with us, just like we have to get along with ya'll.

Hey, I have no trouble getting along with a fellow like you who seems to know how to debate well and is not overly strident. My problem is with the "cheap democrat" politicians like those who run the GOP here in NJ--as soon as they get in power, they start pushing all the social conservatives out of the party. And when a social conservative actually wins a primary for a statewide race, the "cheap democrats" quickly become "real democrats" and publicly support guys like Jimmy McGreevey over excellent conservatives like Bret Schundler.
270 posted on 05/26/2006 9:58:26 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: wireman
I am Catholic. My kids went to Catholic schools and I was married in the Church over 23 years ago. Apparently, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground (of course that won't stop your sanctimonious rantings).

Yeah, that sounds like a good Catholic sentiment. Sheesh.
271 posted on 05/26/2006 10:02:52 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: HairOfTheDog

The student was speaking at a Catholic University. He wasn't advocating changing the laws, jack booted thuggery, bedroom invasions, or anything of the sort.

You don't like freedom of speech?


272 posted on 05/26/2006 10:18:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Antoninus
When I start worrying about your opinion on ANY topic (particularly my faith), I'll give you a buzz.

Yeah, that sounds like a good Catholic sentiment. Sheesh.

No, it sounds like the truth!

273 posted on 05/26/2006 10:22:13 AM PDT by wireman
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To: Antoninus

Unbelievable.


274 posted on 05/26/2006 10:22:17 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Love freedom of speech. I don't like his speech and I'm free to say so :~D Have a nice day.


275 posted on 05/26/2006 10:23:11 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Antoninus
An Amendment to the Constitution is not a "Law" per se. !!!

Come on, now . . .

It's not a direct insult. It's true. You admitted it yourself.

It *is* a direct insult. It's like the old ploy, "Hitler drank milk, so if you drink milk you're a Hitler-lite." I do agree with Ds on some things. I also agree with Nazis on some things -- like milk.

If you can't bother to get behind a proposition as simple and fundamental as defining legally recognized marriage as only between one man and one woman, there's no way we can remain in the same party together over the long haul.

Exactly the 'all or nothing' attitude I'm referring to. I personally don't have a problem with either polygamy or same-sex marriage. So because of that, you don't want me voting R. Even if on 'political' issues, we agree. But because I believe that Marriage is basically a union between consenting adults, and those adults should be free to define what it means to them, you want us out of the party.

By far most Rs I know are Rs cuz of the old idea that the Rs are for smaller govt. Nothing to do with religion. Now that the Rs in Congress are making it clear they are not the part of smaller govt, if they continue to cause political Rs like me to avoid voting for them, it'll be interesting to see what happens to it.

And when a social conservative actually wins a primary for a statewide race, the "cheap democrats" quickly become "real democrats" and publicly support guys like Jimmy McGreevey over excellent conservatives like Bret Schundler.

That's the thing -- those aren't "cheap democrats", and they aren't political conservatives. Those are *real* liberals, and politicians who have "gone native".

Power corrupts. These folks may promise 'conservative' things to get elected, but once elected they use their power to help themselves, and their friends.

You don't have problems with 'political conservatives' in Jersey. You have problems with a liberal voter base.


276 posted on 05/26/2006 10:24:21 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative = Careful, as in 'Conservative with money')
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To: wireman
When I start worrying about your opinion on ANY topic (particularly my faith), I'll give you a buzz.

You rag on the Church and then act all offended when someone calls you on it? Pathetic.
277 posted on 05/26/2006 10:32:47 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: Dominic Harr
So because of that, you don't want me voting R. Even if on 'political' issues, we agree. But because I believe that Marriage is basically a union between consenting adults, and those adults should be free to define what it means to them, you want us out of the party.

That's not what I said. I said "there's no way we can remain in the same party together over the long haul." That's a statement of fact. Eventually, contentious issues like these will drive one faction or the other right out of the party. As libertarians have their own party already, I'd reckon it's your side who's more likely to skeedaddle.

By far most Rs I know are Rs cuz of the old idea that the Rs are for smaller govt.

And by far, most Rs I know are Rs because they believe that the GOP better represents their moral and religious convictions than the Democrats. (We also happen to be for smaller federal government as well.) So there we are. Isn't anecdotal evidence fun?

That's the thing -- those aren't "cheap democrats", and they aren't political conservatives. Those are *real* liberals, and politicians who have "gone native".

They certainly claim to be tax-cutting "fiscal conservatives" and the "real liberals" try to define them as conservatives. However, when push comes to shove, they're the first ones out the door when it comes to supporting a pro-life, pro-traditional family, school-vouchers, pro-2nd amendment candidate. My question for you is: would you vote for such a candidate?

You don't have problems with 'political conservatives' in Jersey. You have problems with a liberal voter base.

That's true. But our more immediate problem is a liberal GOP which prevents even the contest of ideas from properly taking place on even ground.
278 posted on 05/26/2006 10:45:35 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: Antoninus; wireman
With the way we Catholics are fighting ... I guess the title is true ..."The Message Society Doesn't Want To Hear."

Who wants to look in the mirror when the news is bad. There must be a better way for people to hear the good news of the bible that grace and NFP can renew the face of the earth. Contraception has done enough damage - truly look to NFP, you will be surprised.
279 posted on 05/26/2006 10:48:38 AM PDT by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: peyton randolph
Name me one country in the world in the Church's entire history where the Church has been the net donor, rather than the net beneficiary, of wealth. Not going to find it. The Church is a societal leech. I'm not knocking Christianity. I'm stating that organized religions find a way to profit at that the expense of those they purport to serve...that they do it in God's name is abominable.

Um, India, maybe... I'm not sure about that. But I can tell you that [with their caste system] virtually all social improvement was done by the church, if not directly then indirectly via western philosophy.

The Church is a leach, huh? I don't buy it. That there are the corrupt in the church is undeniable, even Christ admitted that there would be and warned us of wolves in sheep's clothing. Furthermore, the church was the first organization I know of to implement widespread social programs such as breadlines and adoption. (Way back in Roman times it was perfectly fine to leave an unwanted baby out in the wilderness to die, when it was found out that Christians would take care of these unwanted babies it became common practice to leave them where Christians would find them.)

On organized religions, I suppose that it really depends on how you define organized. Even when the Christian church is persecuted, perhaps especially, there is generally a great deal of organization.

As to your "religions find a way to profit at that the expense of those they purport to serve" statement, I'll offer one recent and shining counterexample: Mother Tressa. The amazing thing you don't realize is that this type of person is not as uncommon as you may think. I'd recommend reading Jesus Freaks Vol II to dispel your ignorance on the church, its people, and its work.

280 posted on 05/26/2006 10:54:28 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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