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Border Patrol Agents Warn: Bush Plan is a 'Trojan Horse'
The National Ledger ^ | 5.18.06 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 05/18/2006 9:49:12 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

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To: redpoll


"I just don't understand what appears to be cultural suicide by my leaders of both parties. I don't get it."

You're not alone. Most citizens of this Country don't get it either.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm


41 posted on 05/18/2006 10:09:32 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: conserv13

Is it appropriate for these agents to criticise the President like this?



They are criticizing the plan, not the man. And no, no one is above criticism. We have no king.


42 posted on 05/18/2006 10:09:58 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
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To: conserv13
Huh. Is it appropriate for these agents to criticise the President like this?

The first amendment says "yes".

43 posted on 05/18/2006 10:10:10 AM PDT by meyer (Permanently boycott all businesses that close for the May 1st illegal alien march!)
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To: staytrue
Why do you support open borders?
44 posted on 05/18/2006 10:10:28 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Ben Mugged

My guess is the same lobbyists and "special interest" groups aka.....La Raza, MeCHA, etc. are using the same methods ($$$$) on union leaders that they've used to capture the hearts and minds of our (alleged) political leaders.


45 posted on 05/18/2006 10:10:30 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
4) people who are too stupid to know that any Mexican with clean ID and baggage can ride a bus to a port of entry and cross into the United States than move freely for several miles.

Don't think so. They still need to apply for and get a Border Crossing Card from a US consulate or Embassy. If they're un/under-employed they're unlikely to be granted such a card.

46 posted on 05/18/2006 10:11:02 AM PDT by RodgerD
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To: gopwinsin04
Tell your rep what you think !

SEND 'EM A FREE FAX

47 posted on 05/18/2006 10:11:14 AM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: hawkaw; bicyclerepair

and didn't know his imigration policy



Is that what he said? I must have forgotten to read between the lines.


48 posted on 05/18/2006 10:12:04 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
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To: Kenny Bunkport

"Translation from the union: We want higher salaries." - Kenny Bunkport


People who work usually want higher salaries.

Rather than attack their motives, why not address their arguments?


49 posted on 05/18/2006 10:13:24 AM PDT by mdefranc
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To: trubluolyguy
And no, no one is above criticism. We have no king.

I agree. The border patrol isn't like the military in that sense I guess. If it was okay for our troops in Iraq to criticise their bosses publicly, would they?

50 posted on 05/18/2006 10:13:31 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: gopwinsin04

The border agent is probably one of the many DU trolls and disruptors posting here lately, and is obviously a Bush-hater.

















Sadly, these days I must add a "/sarcasm" to distinguish this from an authentic response.


51 posted on 05/18/2006 10:14:36 AM PDT by SerpentDove (We will not stand by and allow politicians to destroy our country through open borders.)
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To: staytrue

What about the Farm Workers Union founded by Caesar Chavez?


52 posted on 05/18/2006 10:15:42 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Ben Mugged
Why are the unions not speaking out against illegal immigration? Seems the unions are losing membership possibilities if illegals consume the jobs.

Perhaps they're counting on the newly-legalized illegals becoming their new union members.

The Farm Workers Union should be the most vocal opponent to illegal immigration.

You can read this from the United Farm Workers:
Take Action: Tell President Bush: It's time for action, not just words! [they want amnesty].

Anyone know what is going on here?

Here is a little more information:

SEIU (Service Employees International Union)
seig.org
Immigration Reform
seiu.org/issues/issue_immigration.cfm
Statement on Pres. Bush's 5/15 Speech By SEIU's Executive Vice-President Eliseo Medina
seiu.org/media/pressreleases.cfm?pr_id=1310

We Are America Alliance
cccaction.org/cccaction/waa_index.html
Who We Are
cccaction.org/cccaction/waa_about_us.html
Affliated with:

  1. Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA)
    chirla.org
  2. Center for Community Change
    communitychange.org
  3. Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (ICIRR)
    icirr.org
  4. Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy (MIRA) Coalition
    miracoalition.org
  5. National Association for Latin and Caribbean Communities (NALACC)
    nalacc.org
  6. National Capitol Immigration Coalition (NCIC)
    ncic-metro.org
  7. National Day Laborers Organizing Network
    ndlon.org
  8. National Korean American Social & Education Consortium (NAKASEC)
    nakasec.org
  9. New American Opportunity Campaign (NAOC)/Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CCIR)
    cirnow.org
  10. New York Immigration Coalition (NYIC)
    thenyic.org
  11. Pineros y Campesinos Unidos del Noroeste (Northwest Treeplanters and Farmworkers United) (Woodburn, OR)
    pcun.org
  12. Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
    seiu.org
  13. UNITE HERE!
    unitehere.org

53 posted on 05/18/2006 10:15:45 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: gopwinsin04

Doesn't our president take an oath or something?


54 posted on 05/18/2006 10:16:08 AM PDT by satan
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To: redpoll

>>Why would anyone allow huge floods of illegal migrants squatting in their own country? What's the advantage? What's the motive?<<

Benefits:

Bush: Gets to realize his dream of a giant North American economic bloc...

Democrats: Floods of Democrat voters and the end of Republican domination, forever

Us: We're scr*wed


55 posted on 05/18/2006 10:18:59 AM PDT by SerpentDove (We will not stand by and allow politicians to destroy our country through open borders.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I don't support open borders.

But I sure as hell won't accuse those that do of being drug dealers.


56 posted on 05/18/2006 10:19:14 AM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: conserv13

If it was okay for our troops in Iraq to criticise their bosses publicly, would they?



Some might but I think the majority would exercise more restraint and loyalty than that.


57 posted on 05/18/2006 10:21:22 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
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To: Ben Mugged

Your post 52 is so 1970's.

I believe many of the single issue conservatives are basically luddites longing for days past.

Those days are gone. Get used to the new reality.

fyi, chavez died a few years ago.


58 posted on 05/18/2006 10:21:48 AM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Translation from the union: "We want higher salaries."

Who can blame them?
They have to work hard to implement the border policy of the USA.
And gather (even inadvertently) intelligence for The Mexican Guvmint.
59 posted on 05/18/2006 10:23:22 AM PDT by VOA
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To: lormand

The Border Patrol Union has no real power, they cannot strike by law. It is not a Union in the way we usually think of Unions, it is more like a professional organization. If a BP finds himself in trouble they will have someone represent him, that type of thing. If a BP officer thinks working conditions are bad- shifts scheduled so close together not enough time to commute and sleep - that type of thing they write letters of complaint on the behalf of those involved. They have no leverage though since they can't strike. The rank and file BP are not allowed to talk about what really happens on the border. The Union will many times speak up for them if something is getting swept under the rug, like incursions by Mexican Military or BP getting shot at.


60 posted on 05/18/2006 10:23:46 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and secure the border!!!)
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