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To: shield

I hope so. But I wouldn't count on this ever been settled. Certainly our one party media don't want it settled.

One of the reasons I am skeptical is because one of the biggest VIPS, Vincent Cannistaro, has been shouting from the rooftops that these forgeries orginated in the US by former US intel officers who were helping Bush lie us into war:

AlterNet: Who Forged the Niger Documents?
http://www.alternet.org/story/21704

I doubt that he would be pushing this line and demanding an investigation if he knew Wilson and other friends of his were involved.


33 posted on 05/09/2006 10:35:49 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
I know I've heard this too. Isn't he a big part of the of the left and is determined to help take down the capitalist America? Their survival depends on lies!!! Guess he thinks they'll never be an investigation or or or they've well covered all their arsses.

US intel officers who were helping Bush lie us into war:

DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?

35 posted on 05/09/2006 10:41:26 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Sam Hill

I've got a suggestion. AJ has a place to post comments or whatever for his articles...why not post your reservations to him and see what he has to say.


36 posted on 05/09/2006 10:52:00 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Sam Hill

I have another suggestion. Each of AJ's articles posted at the links I've provided have some very interesting comments at the bottom of each of the articles. Take the time to read them.


38 posted on 05/09/2006 11:05:46 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Sam Hill
He's trying to throw everyone off his own track:

Ex-CIA agent (and coincidentally, an advisor to the Vatican in Rome),Vincent Cannistraro has stated that Alan Wolf and Duane Clarridge were the actual forgers, but his account is the only one available that I can find on the subject. He has also pointed the finger at Michael Ledeen, but Ledeen has publicly made a statement that he had nothing to do with it and demanded an apology from Cannistraro.

In addition, despite what the MSM is reporting, the Italians released a press report yesterday saying they had nothing to do with the forgeries:

Italy denies role in fake documents on Iraq

This was also backed up by Rocco here

Cannistraro's "theory" falls apart when you consider that he:

1) blamed SISME (the Italians), which has proven to be wrong

2) bases his assumptions on a Dec 2001 Ledeen meeting, when Cannistraro himself was in Rome in Nov 2001, which would make him just as suspect.

I also discovered that Cannistraro worked directly with Clarridge during Iran Contra, so he has alot of nerve bringing that up in connection to Ledeen. Another interesting tidbit (#47) that I discovered is that Wolf and Clarridge worked with Aldrich Ames, who outed Plame to the Russians in the 90's. Coincidence? I think not. Cannistraro trying to kill two birds with one stone to cover his own carcass seems to be the more likely answer. Equally suspicious is the Hersch article, where Cannistraro and another unnamed agent state the exact route the documents took and Cannistraro actually admits that he called the CIA about the documents before they were proven to be false. This begs the question...just how did Cannistraro know about the documents before they were vetted? Sounds a whole lot like Wilson's slip-up about seeing the documents.

Hersch also claims in the above linked article:

Another explanation was provided by a former senior C.I.A. officer. He had begun talking to me about the Niger papers in March, when I first wrote about the forgery, and said, “Somebody deliberately let something false get in there.” He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.
A more reliable source, Joe diGenova claims it was a possible CIA coup as well. As does James Lewis in two articles, here and here
53 posted on 05/09/2006 1:23:52 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Sam Hill

It wouldn't be a stratch if someone from this group was willing to commit perjury and say that someone like Condi Rice met with him secretly...say at her apartment at THE WATERGATE. Who do you think the media would believe?


73 posted on 05/09/2006 4:21:02 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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